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With The 12-Point Platform, this won't happen: Troops in Syria

I'm starting to sense a consensus congealing:

Lindsay Graham:

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), who is considering a 2016 presidential bid, said on Sunday it would require 10,000 American "boots on the ground" to stop the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) in Syria.

Coalition airstrikes in Iraq and Syria won't destroy the group, but do help in some regard, Graham said on CBS's "Face the Nation."

Graham said U.S. forces in Syria should be accompanied by a regional force of Arab nations.

But, he said, "we cannot successfully defeat ISIL on the ground in Syria with the Free Syrian Army and regional coalitions of Arab nations until you deal with Assad because he will kill anybody that comes in there that tries to defeat ISIL."

Graham said Iraq and Syria were the best platforms from which to launch another attack on the U.S. since 9/11. If ISIS is not stopped, he added, "you'll see a Paris on steroids pretty soon."

Scott Walker on ABC News:

Walker: “Aggressively, we need to take the fight to ISIS and any other radical Islamic terrorists around the world… I think we need to have an aggressive strategy anywhere around the world.”

Raddatz: “But what does that mean? I don’t know what ‘aggressive strategy’ means.”

Walker: “Ultimately, we have to be prepared to put boots on the ground, if that’s what it takes.”

Raddatz: “U.S. boots on the ground in Syria?”

Walker: “Well, I don’t think that’s an immediate plan.”

And more seriously, Secretary of Defense Gates:

Former Defense Secretary Robert Gates on Sunday called President Obama's goal to destroy the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) “unrealistic” and warned that ground troops may be needed to “roll back ISIS.”

“I think that the air strikes have contributed to containing them, but we’re a long way, in my view, from being in a position to roll them back or push them out of Iraq,” Gates said on NBC’S “Meet the Press” referring to ISIS.

Gates, who served in the role under both Obama and former President George W. Bush, has repeatedly criticized Obama for ruling out ground forces in the fight against ISIS militants. He said Sunday that defeating ISIS without boots on the ground is an “unattainable objective.”

“It will be very difficult to roll ISIS back without forward air controllers and spotters, without embedded trainers.” Gates added.

“What I’m talking about here is potentially a few hundred troops, not thousands or tens of thousands.”

Well, Grahama just setting himself up for permanent employment raising alarms and excursions about The Islamic Threat, and why his Moroccan neighbors won't stop their damn ululating, and yadda yadda yadda. So he would say that, wouldn't he?

Walker is more serious; I don't read him as wanting to get out over his skis on foreign policy; he's about stomping Democrats and union-busting, not the Muslim menace. So that means he's at most slightly ahead of Republican conventional wisdom.

As for Gates, they always say that. That's how it starts. Wait 'til one or two of those "forward air controllers and spotters" or "embedded trainers" gets captured or, worse, beheaded -- and both ISIS and our elites want that -- and there will be thousands of troops soon enough.

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The 12-Point Platform has the plank:

10. End the Wars

Before I take on our entire defense posture -- that's this is just a post, some noodling, instead of a full-fledged justification for #10 -- I'm going to have to read my Chalmers Johnson on blowback. Because that's what all this stuff looks like, to me. Very profitable blowback, I might add. So they go in, and they whack ISIS -- assuming that to be possible -- and kill, oh, another 100,000 civilians or so. Does anybody imagine that's not enough for another generation of takfiris? Get outta there, and let the oscillations damp themselves down, which they will.

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Submitted by nippersdad on

Disaster Capitalism at its' finest, I don't see them ever going away in my life time. The MIC has created its' own bottomless market for this.

Aside from all of the rest of it, though, what really galls me most is how embarrassing it is to be an American in an age of virtually 24/7 pants wetting; the wet diaper legions just sicken me. They enjoy this shit, and that is what makes it all work.

Land of the free and home of the brave, indeed.

Submitted by lambert on

Yes, it's madness. Elephants going mad at pinpricks, or at the sight of a mouse.

I like the "wet diaper legions."

Wish I had the chops, I'd make an "Imperial Huggies" parody advertisement....

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Submitted by nippersdad on

or the energy? That sounds like a fun project, and you have the vehicle right here.

I tried to start up an advertising agency once, and the very best part were the brainstorming sessions. The really crazy stuff was a lot of fun.

Submitted by lambert on

Incredibly rickety, deeply fake. A Potemkin Moment will happen for all this, too.

Anyhow, maybe not in my lifetime. Gay marriage took a generation, but they kept at it...

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"This enemy you cannot kill. You can only drive it back damaged to the depths and teach your children to watch the waves for its return." - Quellcrist Falconer, Richard Morgan's Takeshi Kovacs trilogy