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Romney believes in money. Obama believes in nothing.

Most liberals want to write off Obama’s bad performance as a bad night. It’s not just that. It’s a structural problem.

Well put. The whole post is good.

The one part of the debate where Romney was in a more-or-less not synthetic and quasi-genuine way enthusiastic was when he was talking about making money.

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Submitted by Miguel Sanchez on

I can't agree with the part where he says 'Dems are afraid of their base'. Where is the evidence for this fear? Everything I see and hear tells me Dems despise their base and take it for granted, and focus all their energy on winning over the mythical reasonable centrists.

The logic is always the same - Dems must pander to 'centrists' while we 'progressives' must shut up and accept it because we would be stupid idiots not to support the Dems. Only centrists can ever reasonably expect to be pandered to by the party. A liberal who wants some pandering really 'wants a pony'. It's never explained how this will ever result in liberal outcomes, because it won't, and for many 'progressives' I think that's the point.

Today's liberal is expected to act like a cuckold who must accept the cheating of her lover because it's better than being single, and deep down she knows he really loves her in spite of all his infidelities.

The only fear operating here is the liberal voter's fear that if she doesn't line up behind the Dems she will get something even worse.

Submitted by YesMaybe on

They're not really afraid of the base, since they're 100% confident they can control it. I think what he meant by saying that is that they're afraid of what would happen if the base actually got its way, which is why preventing that is a top priority (though not a difficult one to achieve, apparently). At least, that's how I interpreted it.

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Submitted by MsExPat on

Right after the debates a friend emailed and said "While I was watching Obama, it suddenly came to me: He no longer wants to win."

Being President for Obama was a shiny toy. Now it's not so shiny, and he's tired of it, the way he tired of the Senate. The actual work of being President never really attracted him, and now that the bloom is off his rose and he's having to deal with criticism, opposition and, well, failure--he's lost interest.

Submitted by MontanaMaven on

He's bored. I miss the radio host Lynn Samuels who died in December . She would have nailed him on his carelessness .

Submitted by chadwick newsome on

O believes that he should be taken up into the sphere of hte MOTU, even if only as an honorary member. O believes too that a small economic elite should be able to inflict suffering and deprivation on the non-elite population. If you are really unlucky, you will be killed by a drone. If you are slightly luckier than that, you will have your health care access cut off and your pensions, private and public, cancelled. O also believes that people should be lied too, manipulated, congntively infiltrated and tricked.

O believes in evil.

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Submitted by reslez on

As I've said before, Election 2012 is like that old tagline from Aliens vs Predator: Whoever wins, we lose.

Submitted by Hugh on

"Romney believes in money. Obama believes in nothing" is the best and most succinct summary I have seen of who and what the candidates are and what they stand for.

Perhaps it is simply the difference between one of the kleptocratic rich (Romney) and one of their servant elites (Obama).

Submitted by MontanaMaven on

You rock.

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Submitted by Miguel Sanchez on

You are probably correct that that's what he means, i.e. that Dems are afraid of the consequences of letting their base have any power within the party or society.

Submitted by lambert on

It's important that people can change their minds here without being beaten up for it (unless they fail to base their change of mind on evidence and reasoning ;-) Even I have been known to change my mind.

So, kudos.

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Submitted by Miguel Sanchez on

My comment was supposed to be in reply to YesMaybe's comment to my first comment. I'm not sure how it ended up down here.