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Submitted by lambert on

He called bullshit on Greenspan and Adjustable Rate Mortgages at least a year before it happened. Calling his shot on the subprime fiasco is pretty good, I'd say.

Ditto Obama putting Social Security in play; he caught that right wing dogswhistle before anybody, and then came the avalanche of them, including the still-reverberating Reagan nonsense.

He's also the inventor of many useful and propagated snowclones that cause the right targets to be derided and mocked, including the Iraq pony and dirty fucking hippies.

It's the blogosphere, so nobody has to listen to anybody, but I tend to go with those who are always just a beat ahead, and have a track record.

What's your problem with him?

[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

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Submitted by chicago dyke on

i consider myself an independent who won't ever vote for a republican ever again, or at least not until the party cleans out the crazies and prosecutes the criminals to the full extent of the law. so i'm not holding my breath for that. but in the meantime, i don't like to be told that dems are always my only choice. i voted for the libertarian in the republican primary, for example. i thought it a good idea at the time, seeing as how i was literally not allowed to choose my candidate by "my" party.

centrists, moderates- pfft. i spit in their general direction, i think king said something like "hell's hottest for those who do nothing in times of great moral crisis." i agree (atheistically, of course). but "independents" include people like me, who occasionally have good reason to vote for a third party and/or strongly dissociate myself with the democrats. like harry and nancy- they so aren't "my people" nor will i lift a finger to help them while they act like they have been.

Submitted by lambert on

You're not about mushiness and making up your mind at the last minute because of some weird personal narrative, and then cloaking your refusal to study in the virtue of being independent minded.

I'd call you more "Ornery" than (so-called) independent.

[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

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Submitted by vastleft on

1. It bugs me when bloggers post links that don't provide the slightest clue about what's on the other end. Compare with Avedon, who is marvelously concise but lets you know at a glance which links might matter to you.

2. The "amnesty" thing. Way to rub the high-schoolish A-list thing in the faces of the newbies.

He's a smart guy, with a great eye, and he's coined some truly useful terms.

But, I'm glad you read Atrios, so I don't have to.

Submitted by lambert on

Or, rather, Not Atrios.

[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

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Submitted by DCblogger on

He was one of the pioneers that demonstrated that blogging could be an important voice. He has a knack for the perfect ridicule. He is why no one will ever be able to look at Joke Line without thinking wanker, and why no one will ever be able to look at The Mustache of Understanding without thinking of that hideous moment on Charlie Rose when he said "Suck on This", he has pasted that line on Friedman.

Atrios is the last high traffic blog where you don't have to register to comment. He puts out 4-12 posts a day, seven days a week, and has kept it up for years.

I was sorry he took so many off his blog roll, but he added others and anyway, that is his prerogative.

He gave up a promising career in academia to devote himself to the fight. He makes it look easy to drive a big blog, but it's not.

So yeah, three cheers for Atrios.

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Submitted by Anna Granfors on

...is comments, but I guess it's just not my "scene". (although I used to be a Simels fan back in his Stereo Review days.)

I have nothing but respect for basically all y'all in Lefty Blogtopia, and as DC says, he's a pioneer. I wouldn't have found most of you were it not for him.

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Submitted by chicago dyke on

i acknowledge his suzeranity over me by offering him two of my sheep, and a third of my flax crop, at the village harvest festival every year. in turn, he promises not to exercise his feudal option to prima noche with my cats. he's a very forward thinking Laird.

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Submitted by nezua limón xol... on

for a few reasons. one being that anyone who blankets "independents and centrists" as not worth listening to is stodgy, closeminded and not worth listening to! they have confessed that they narrow their thinking to such an extent that their output will be similarly narrow. simple.
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to Atrios, and it's still a great blog to read.

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Submitted by nezua limón xol... on

don't know who your "we" is, kentucky, but i'm sure that i'm not there!

and the truth is, i do consider his words when i read them, at least for a good moment. why? because i am exactly not like the screenshot above claims to be. i understand that even people who rub me the wrong way, or seem to ruminate over thoughts unimportant to me still may cough up a nugget of gold amidst all the gristle. and i personally can't know when that will be. thinking i can predetermine when that will be narrows my range of vision. i make it a habit to try and listen, at least for a moment, to especially the thoughts my mind wants to violently reject. because in that reaction is something. something important to some part of me. i can learn there.

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Submitted by chicago dyke on

doing all the heavy lifting in this thread. um, "what nezua said." yes, yes, we're "outliers" and oddballs and we don't represent "our" communities, but still.

'independent' isn't a bad word in and of itself. atrios is technically sloppy for tossing it around so freely. some could argue, where i won't because i'd rather argue about other things, that this is a failing in the (mostly white alist) blogging community.

there are legit reasons to hate the dem party, if you're a poor, or brown, or black person. in equal proportion to your hatred of republicans. i'm sorry if that makes some uncomfortable, but it's true. you feel that way when a dem mayor covers for a unionized police force that tasered your granny to death while closing down her wing of the projects because her grandson got busted selling his third 'three strikes and you're a slave' rock down the street.

that really happened, btw.

Submitted by lambert on

"Independent" in polls, I'm sure.

He doesn't mean "independent" minded. That's why they're grouped with the Moderate and the Centrist.

[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

Submitted by [Please enter a... (not verified) on

what atrios actually says:

Undecideds

The voters described by Chris Hayes aren't the same as my "self-declared independents." Mine are kinda stupid, but they pay a bit more attention to politics. They're usually actually either Republicans or Democrats who are a bit more likely to vote for the other side based on personality or a single-issue fetish. They're narcissistic, imagining themselves to be the median voter and believing that politics should cater to them.

But the universe of The Grand Center includes Villagers, Chris Hayes' undecideds, and my self-described independents.
http://atrios.blogspot.com/2007_12_30_ar...

What To Do About The Independents

...people misinterpret. I'm not talking about everyone who fails to register for one of the two main parties, or people who sometimes vote for the candidate from the other party. I'm talking about "self-described independents," people who think their independence makes them somehow more objective and more wise than the rest of us and that the fact that they're perfectly positioned on the mythical political center means that they are correct on all things.
http://atrios.blogspot.com/2007_12_30_ar...

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Submitted by nezua limón xol... on

well, farmer, i was going by the screenshot.

and i'd say that this is the problem with glibness and dropping derision on vast amounts of people by way of using one-word labels that are widely open to interpretation. makes for "cool" sounding posts, but if you want to be understood for what you mean, sometimes more nuance is needed. you know...unless you have people to come after you and explain and drop links and reference for you! always nice when that happens, it's true.
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Submitted by lambert on

... to understand the shorthand it uses.

[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.