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Want more and better Democrats in Congress?

Take a page from the Republican play book: have your candidates for office sign a pledge and then hold them to it.

The pledge? Bring back pork barrel spending. Bring home the Federal dollars to your district or state. Tax the rich to pay for it.

It's not really a true jobs guarantee program, and it would be a far far better thing if they spend the money on stuff we really need, but even bridges to nowhere provide jobs, plus they're less morally objectionable than, say, drone manufacturing.

We already know that the Democratic party isn't going to allow Medicare for All, and while it's possible they might allow some wars to end, there's not much likelihood they'll allow "war" to end. But jobs are something they can understand, and pork barrel spending is something at least used to understand.

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Submitted by Roman Berry on

Do I want "more and better Democrats" in Congress? As a matter of fact...I don't. I fear anyone who does want "more and better Democrats" in Congress is still living under the illusion that there is such a thing or that it matters.

We have two parties in name only. They fight and argue to divide us, often with issues that are none of their business, all to keep our focus off of what they are really doing to us. Not for us. To us.

Democrats are part of the same system the Republicans are a part of. They serve that system. They believe in that system. They are not open to actually changing that system in any really meaningful way that is good for the masses (though they are open to changing it in ways that benefit their masters.) It's a corrupted system run by and for the interests of corporations, the powerful and the extremely rich, and with very rare (vanishingly rare) exception, any Democrat that manages to get elected, no matter how noble they think they are (and their campaign marketing fools the fools voting for them into believing they are) is going to be assimilated into and become corrupted by that system (if in fact they were not corrupt in the same manner as Mr. Hope and Change to begin with.

No, I do not want "more and better" Democrats and I do not want "more and better" Republicans. I want to change the system, and that means getting rid of the lot of them and starting over.

Think of it this way: Mouseland

We all live in Mouseland. We are the mice. When you elect "more and better" Democrats (or Republicans), what you're doing is choosing a goverment made of cats. The color of their coats may be different, but they're still cats.

Submitted by hipparchia on

there will always be cats.

I want to change the system,

that's cool, go for it.

and that means getting rid of the lot of them and starting over.

"Look fellows, why do we keep on electing a government made up of cats? Why don't we elect a government made up of mice?" :)

i [heart] tommy douglas. i'd vote for a bunch of tommy-douglas-style bolsheviks in a heartbeat. until the mice here in this country start building democratic socialist parties and running democratic socialist candidates, though, why not fill the democratic party with mice?

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Submitted by Roman Berry on

Because you can't. Really. Been there, tried that. If there's much chance that a few mice might make it into high office, the cats that run the party will set about eating them. Recall the Bin Laden ads run against Howard Dean in Iowa in 2004? Republicans didn't pay for or run those ads. Democrats (Kerry, Gephardt, Lieberman, et. al.) did.

Again, the Democratic Party is part of the system. It exists for the system. It is the system. This never-ending hope of changing the party and filling it with "real Democrats" is one I held onto for a long time. Then I woke up and realized that this never-ending hope is part of the game strategy that they use to play us for suckers.

If you put mice into a party run by cats, those mice either become servants of the cats or they become cat food.

The post-New Deal neoliberal free marketing free trading Wall Street courting big "defense" war on terror indefinite detaining wiretapping email snooping austerity embracing Democratic Party is not my party. As I said, it is part of the system. It supports the system. It is the system. And as essentially nothing more than a wing of the system party, The Money Party, it is an enemy of everyone who isn't loaded with dough. It may not be quite the enemy that the other wing of The Money Party is (or it may in fact be worse...and I can make that argument easily), but a slightly less evil enemy is still an enemy and not a friend.

Reform the party? Elect more and better Dems? That's a pipe dream that ignores reality.

Submitted by hipparchia on

well... it took 140 years for the republican party to go from abraham lincoln to my former congresscritter joe scarborough, but they did it in large part by recruiting the racist, misogynist, homophobic, xenophobic, religious fundamentalist southern democrats. so, 20 years down, another 120 to go before the republican party swings back to being respectable and the democrats go back to being economic populists. :)

i'm not expecting the democratic party to go all warm and fuzzy, i'm proposing that, now that all the irrational haters are, for the moment, corralled in the republican party, the remaining fatcats and economic populists form another unholy alliance long enough to get a couple of important things done, like medicare for all and maybe even one or two more items from this list. eventually the cats in the government will turn and eat all (or most) of the mice in the government, but the point is to make life better for the mice in the citizenry.

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Submitted by Alexa on

Listen, until the toxic ACA legislation was passed, hipparchia, I pretty much shared your sentiments.

But after watching the process very closely, watching all the Kabuki: one week a bunch of Dem Senators sending the Administration a letter demanding 'fiscal austerity, with entitlements on-the-table,' and then approximately three weeks later, pretty much the same senators (those in tough races, mostly) turn around and wrote a vague letter (which was heavily touted--unlike the previous letter) vowing to 'protect Social Security' (yada, yada, yada), I could no longer tell myself that these folks have any intention of truly representing my interests.

They appear to (mostly) be corrupt to the core.

And the ONLY Dems who have a chance of running (since the One Percent determines this) are corporatist (DLC/Third Way) Dems.

The only Dems that are mentioned--Hillary Clinton, Martin O'Malley, Andrew Cuomo, Deval Patrick, Cory Booker, Antonio Villaraigoso, etc.--are DLC!!

I pretty much agree with Kevin Zeese's sentiments below (in an interview with
Joshua Frank, CounterPunch):

KZ: We were telling the ABB liberal intelligencia for the last two months of the campaign that they were making Kerry a weaker candidate by not demanding him to be a stronger candidate and thereby increasing the likelihood of a Bush victory.

The only demands Kerry received were from the corporate Democrats — and he gave them what they wanted.

At a fundraiser Kerry told donors "don’t worry I’m not a redistributionist democrat, and he admitted his jobs plan was nothing more than a corporate tax cut. . . .

The key issue is this: will progressives recognize that they cannot reform the Democratic Party from within, and begin to build a real third party that pushes a populist-progressive message and refuses to support corporate Democrats and corporate-Republicans? We are now where the abolitionists were in 1840 — drawing a line and saying "no more. Like the abolitionists who wouldn’t vote for either pro-slavery party, we have to say that we will not vote for either pro-corporate government party. Enough is enough! The peoples, needs most come first.

The vindication will only come when people start to recognize the Democratic Party is a dead end. You can already see the Dems rationalizing this horrible defeat, they will not face and stand for populist-progressive values. People who really want to see those values in the political arena better wake up themselves and realize — the Democrats are part of the problem, not part of the solution.

JF: Can you expand on that? How are the Democrats more a part of the problem than the solution?

KZ: They take their base for granted.

Look at the African American community who is solidly Democratic. Without them the Dems would have no chance of success — yet their leaders encourage African Americans to give their support to any Democrat that comes along.

What have they gotten for it? Over the last thirty years African Americans have been in a downward spiral on every measure; jobs, wages, education, incarceration, health availability and yet they keep supporting the Democratic Party.

If African Americans begin to decide to go to a third party you will really see a major shake-up.

Indeed, if African Americans and labor announced they were open to a third party alternative, the death of the Democratic Party would be in sight and a real party of the people could take their place.

That is where we must go.

The key issue is this: will progressives recognize that they cannot reform the Democratic Party from within, and begin to build a real third party that pushes a populist-progressive message and refuses to support corporate Democrats and corporate-Republicans?

We are now where the abolitionists were in 1840 — drawing a line and saying "no more. Like the abolitionists who wouldn’t vote for either pro-slavery party, we have to say that we will not vote for either pro-corporate government party.

Enough is enough! The peoples, needs most come first.

The vindication will only come when people start to recognize the Democratic Party is a dead end.

You can already see the Dems rationalizing this horrible defeat, they will not face and stand for populist-progressive values.

People who really want to see those values in the political arena better wake up themselves and realize — the Democrats are part of the problem, not part of the solution.

I wish that I didn't have to agree with Zeese, but actually, I do.

I fully expect (and fear) that our social insurance programs will be at least 80% stripped, before the end of this Administration.

I hope to put up a diary soon with the list of, and links to, the programs that are currently being dismantled.

One, Unemployment Insurance, has already has stripped down considerably, although I've never seen anyone blog one word about it.

I appreciate your hopefulness. I shared it, at one time.

But from what I've read about the trade pact being negotiated, read about (and watched on C-Span) all the so-called 'reforms' that are underway, I simply cannot say that I believe that there is such a thing as "electing more and better Democrats."

I guess we'll just have to 'agree, to disagree' on this one. ;-)

Which is ironic, since I agree with you on almost everything else, LOL!

[Let me apologize ahead for 'typos.' Won't have time to correct all of them!]

Alexa

“If a dog won’t come to you after having looked you in the face, you should go home and examine your conscience.” -- Woodrow Wilson

[Avatar Photo Credit: Conflagrate, jurvetson's photostream, flickr]

Submitted by hipparchia on

the entire govt is infested with cats. the mice have 2 options: infiltrate it, push out the cats, and fill it up with mice, or overthrow it and start over with mice only. if the mice can't even take over one party, they're sure as hell not going to be able to fill up an entire govt.

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Submitted by jo6pac on

I have to agree with Roman Berry on this. In my little area of Calli we had a Alan Grayson type run against an almost tea partyer and dnc gave him no money and repuges sent $700,000 near the end of the cycle to buy tv/radio ads. demodogs sent 0 and he only lost by 5%

Thanks RB I forgot about Mouseland

Submitted by hipparchia on

that thought made me smile.

you can't fill up the government with mice if only a few mice try, and especially if they give up after trying only once. and yes, the cats will always outspend, or ignore, the mice. the mice might have a chance at a lot of seats at once if they go with pure economic populism.

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Submitted by Alexa on

your sentiment.

BTW, I've been challenged to take on the task of 'investigative reporting' on the infamous corporatist (and mostly Democratic) organization 'No Labels.'

I plan to take turns with another blogger on 'reporting on' their so-called virtual XM Radio 'town halls.'

This organization is nothing short of frightening!

I'm still looking at ways to get the word out about them. IMO it is imperative for the liberal base to expose his, and the 'No Labels' organization's [hidden] agenda.

This toxic group has 'suckered in' almost 84,000 people to 'follow' them on Twitter. Yikes!

Since I don't 'do' Facebook, I may not be able to post the audio.

But I'm still trying to figure out a way around this, hoping to find 'Tweets' of the 'town halls,' for instance, since nothing is more effective than hearing these authoritarian right-wingers actually "say" what their true agenda is.

Here's a video introducing him. In his role as the 'No Labels' official radio talk show host, you could say that he's 'the new face of corporatist Democrats and Republicans.'

Watch this video and weep, LOL!

Alexa

“If a dog won’t come to you after having looked you in the face, you should go home and examine your conscience.” -- Woodrow Wilson

[Avatar Photo Credit: Conflagrate, jurvetson's photostream, flickr]

Submitted by hipparchia on

the infamous corporatist (and mostly Democratic) organization 'No Labels.'

:)

check out the storythe progressive party.

and my dad is fond of reminding me that the republican party was in favor of women being able to vote first, with the democrats being the reactionaries.

the fatcat class is made up of some percentage of sociopaths + some other percentage of rockefeller republicans. fed up with, or driven out by, the far right radicals, they have been leaving that party in droves, with many of them deciding to take over, or joining up, or just drifting into, the democratic party over the years, while others of them experiment with forming their own parties...

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Submitted by Alexa on

N/T

Alexa

“If a dog won’t come to you after having looked you in the face, you should go home and examine your conscience.” -- Woodrow Wilson

[Avatar Photo Credit: Conflagrate, jurvetson's photostream, flickr]

Submitted by lambert on

That's appalling.

First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win. -- Mahatma Gandhi

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Submitted by Alexa on

He was present at the formal kickoff of 'No Labels' in New York City, in December 2010 (or pretty much from its inception).

He also served as one of the moderators.

Here's an excerpt from a piece he penned about the 'kickoff' at 'philly.com.' (I accidentally closed the piece before linking to it--sorry!).

Michael Smerconish, Inquirer Columnist
Posted: Sunday, December 12, 2010, 3:01 AM

. . . More than 1,000 participants are expected to witness this launch, having traveled from all 50 states to unite behind a declaration that says in part: "We believe hyperpartisanship is destroying our politics and paralyzing our ability to govern. We may disagree on issues, but we do so with civility and mutual respect."

I'm scheduled to moderate a morning session featuring U.S. Sens. Joe Lieberman (I., Conn.), Kirsten Gillibrand (D., N.Y.), and Debbie Stabenow (D., Mich.); Democratic Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa of Los Angeles; U.S. Rep. Bob Inglis (R., S.C.); and former GOP congressman Tom Davis of Virginia. Later in the day, independents such as Mayor Michael Bloomberg of New York City, Gov. Charlie Crist of Florida, and Republican U.S. Rep. Mike Castle of Delaware are expected. . . .

I'm still trying to find the audio of the full first 'No Labels Radio' town hall. I've misplaced my notes, but hopefully will find them, and be able to transcribe them later.

I've never found a XM POTUS Channel program (yet) that actually has audio files, so I'm not going to 'hold my breath' on this one. Still, I've not given up 'looking.'

Alexa

“If a dog won’t come to you after having looked you in the face, you should go home and examine your conscience.” -- Woodrow Wilson

[Avatar Photo Credit: Conflagrate, jurvetson's photostream, flickr]