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Us Oxford comma people: We shall go on to the end, we shall fight in France, we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our Island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender..."

NOTE Anaphora, big time!

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Submitted by Jay on

Agreed. As an editor I always enforce the serial comma. The argument against them is doctrinaire and delusional.

Submitted by lambert on

What is the doctrine?!?!? "Confusion to readers!" ?

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Submitted by Jay on

The doctrine, as it has been 'splained to me, is that each comma is actually a notation designated as "and." This explanation may come from some obscure text written by someone who was a fool then and is repeated by fools now. So in the following sentence:

Trees, birds, and flowers are best viewed in Spring.

is read as "Trees and birds and and flowers are best viewed in Spring." The serial "and" is therefore doctrinally redundant; commas are not their own sensible thing but just a placeholder for the word "and." Which is bullshit. Take the first sentence in this comment above. It would read:

"The doctrine and as it has been 'splained to me and is that each comma is actually a notation designated as 'and.'"

But that doesn't apply to *those* commas they say . . . . just commas in lists of things--those are just pauses in a sentence or separation in clauses or whatever baloney they're selling. Bad bad bad. Conceited, pompous, inconsistent, muddled, and poorly executed, doctrinaire bullshit.

They might pull out their Procrustean ruler and judge those last two as not sentences because they don't have subjects per se, but such are graceless boobs who seek artless constraints on the curious ebb and flow of language and meaning.

Submitted by lambert on

We don't need punctuation to substitute for words. We have words. Punctuation and words have different functions, unless you are writing a telegram STOP

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Submitted by Jay on

Also, trees, birds, and flowers sentence is passive. But you get the gist.