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Today's single payer post: torture chambers or emergency rooms?

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I have been thinking about this old article in The Hill:

Dems hedge on healthcare

...“We all know there is not enough money to do all this stuff,” said Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-W.Va.), a Finance Committee member and an Obama supporter, referring to the presidential candidates’ healthcare plans. “What they are doing is … laying out their ambitions.” ...

... Sen. Charles Schumer (N.Y.), a member of Senate Democratic leadership and a key Hillary Clinton ally who also sits on the Finance Committee, said he is “not sure we have the big plan on healthcare.”

“Healthcare I feel strongly about, but I am not sure that we’re ready for a major national healthcare plan,” Schumer said.

Schumer said he would focus “on prevention above all and cost cutting until we can get a national healthcare plan.”

As this video shows, a single payer system would significantly lower costs, so the whole can we pay for this argument is bogus.

But these same Senators have been happy to authorize the Treasury Department to borrow money from China and vote appropriations for the Defense Dept. to build a gulag of secret prisons, complete with torture chambers.

During the Bush years, hundreds of urban and rural emergency rooms have closed down, and at the same time our society has been building torture chambers. Rockefeller and Schumer cannot put all the blame on Bush. They need to take responsibility for their role in that.

The battle for HR 676 is a moral test.

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Submitted by orionATL on

the ascendency of senator obama, a person with no serious experience in governing, as the democratic nominee

is often misunderstood.

it is not the rsult of the nation's discovery of a remarkably talented leader, as the marketing would have it.

it is the result of a group of high-level democratic politicians who do not want to have their ways of doing business challenged by senator clinton as president.

senator clinton will fight for what is beneficial to the nation and to many ordinary people. that is not a slogan. that is her record.

senators rockefeller and schumer have a long record of waffling when it counts -

senator rockefeller when the bush admin decide to spy on americans.

and senator schumer when attorney general was appointed.

the ascendancy of sen obama is not a sign of HOPE for the democratic party.

it is a sign that the oldest and most morally insensitive (to put it kindly) members of the party are in the in the ascendancy.

Submitted by PA_Lady on

it is the result of a group of high-level democratic politicians who do not want to have their ways of doing business challenged by senator clinton as president.

This was my first thought when the HopeChangeandUnity parade started taking off. The Dem leaders want someone who can be controlled.

Submitted by lambert on

says Lambert cheerfully.

The power of the Blue Dogs is only going to increase as the rats leave to sinking ship of the Republican Party and join the Dems.

As I've been saying, Obama, if he wins, and is allowed to take office, will govern from the center right.

Hillary's a centrist too, but her base is different, and more likely to push for real reforms than, say, the creative class who've "got theirs."

[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

Submitted by PA_Lady on

"Not sure we're ready for a national healthcare plan"? I'm hoping he's referring to the useless Dem-controlled Congress, and not the American people.

We the People are fed up and are more than ready for a single-payer healthcare plan.

*By the way, DCB, I've made converts of some people thanks to your posts! I keep emailing them to those I know who think single-payer healthcare is a bad thing. So far, 18 have seen the light - just 9 more to go.

Submitted by lambert on

That's how it's done...

[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

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Submitted by DCblogger on

By the way, DCB, I’ve made converts of some people thanks to your posts!

thank you for telling me that. I keep posting these without any feeling for any impact it might be having.

many thanks to the senior members of the Mighty Corrente Building for creating a blog with sufficient traffic for these posts to get seen.

While many Blue Dogs will get elected, in the House the committee's are controlled by very liberal Representatives.

Incidentally, NY Representatives who support HR 676. Schumer has his fellow NY politicians to answer to.

I will be interested to see how the national day of action goes.

Submitted by PA_Lady on

These posts are such a great help when I'm in conversation as well. I can articulate the problems and outrages we have currently, relate them to the problems even the insured are having, and show how a single-payer system would benefit us all.

Before I started reading them, it was mostly, "Splutter, spittle, GAH!" I'm sure I scared people more than the health care system does. :)

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Submitted by desert dawg on

DC for focusing on THE issue of the campaign and how Party regulars have shown their true colors and

Props to

Orion for a brilliant comment. Amen.

"I find it ironic that Hillary has been done in by the Vast Left-Wing Conspiracy"--Dennis Miller

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Submitted by DCblogger on

When I decided to start posting about single payer, I didn't even KNOW there was a HR 676, never mind a series of videos that explained it. I certainly didn't know there was a demonstration planned for next month. I just stumbled on this information as I went along. I'm learning as much as everyone else.

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Submitted by BDBlue on

I don't always comment because I don't have a lot to say other than "Yes" or "Right", but I always read the posts. A very good series.