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This is the end of the innocence

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Watching the feeding frenzy over Hillary Clinton's completely innocuous RFK comment, I am now officially afraid.

CDS, the derangement syndrome that fuels psychotic hatred of all things Clinton, has verifiably (re)infected our entire media apparatus and much of the Democratic Party.

If it's not Day of the Dead, it's certainly Time of the Truthy.

Remember the helpless dread you felt when the GOP willfully drove us off the rails of reality?

The aide said that guys like me were "in what we call the reality-based community," which he defined as people who "believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality." I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment principles and empiricism. He cut me off. "That's not the way the world really works anymore," he continued. "We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality -- judiciously, as you will -- we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors... and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."

I guess they really are the party of ideas. Though the Republican brand is in the toilet, their contempt for reality is vividly viral.

Be afraid. Be very afraid.

When the very underpinnings of reality are yanked out from under us, we're in Rod Serling territory. Kafka territory. McCarthy territory.

A candidate mentions that her husband's first presidential campaign was still contested into June, and so was Robert Kennedy's historic and fateful run. A statement that is harmless, relevant, and true. Three words that apparently hold no appeal for many folks these days.

The ensuing response would make you think she'd gotten hold of Sirhan Sirhan's gun and was now pointing it at her Democratic rival. Whhhhaaaattt the fuuuuccckkk!?

If you've bought into this four-alarm twistunderstanding, I don't know you anymore.

And I don't know the reality you've created. I only know that you're terrifying me.

UPDATE: Susie, in comments, nails it: "This is the Dean Scream all over again."

The media frenzy around Howard Dean sounding gravelly in a microphone was 100% bullshit.

The media frenzy around Hillary Clinton recalling the campaign of a great Democrat who was assassinated is 100% bullshit.

Anyone who falls for either is not just any dupe, but the kind of dupe who lets the media pick our candidates.

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Submitted by myiq2xu on

Just like the Bushies did.

Remember when the GOP media tried to gin up fauxrage at John Kerry's botched joke?

It went nowhere.

The OFB are on the verge of self-immolation. Better now than in November

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Submitted by vastleft on

The fauxtrage about John Kerry ended his prospective 2008 presidential bid. Twistunderstanding at its most effective.

They're starting a fire, alright, just like the Bushies did. But it ain't the self that feels the heat in the short term. We have met the fodder, and it is us.

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Submitted by myiq2xu on

She started laughing.

Kerry never had a shot in 2008 anyway, we don't renominate losers.

The Obama campaign is trying to walk this back but the OFB are already in freak-out mode.

This will hurt Obama, not Hillary. They are scaring people with this lunacy, and pissing off Hillary supporters.

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Submitted by [Please enter a... (not verified) on

What if Obama has already managed to buy off the SuperDelegates? What if this whatever - is only intended to give the SuperDs cover. An excuse (Hillary's a monster) to support Obama.

It's a weak excuse for sure. But what excuse did they have before yesterday?

Did you see what the SuperD who switched from Hillary to Obama said? It was gibberish.

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Submitted by myiq2xu on

I put up a post about it yesterday.

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Submitted by lambert on

Remember, thought the OFB would like you to believe otherwise, that a pledge is not a vote.

[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

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Submitted by Aeryl on

It seems like the media is setting this up to be the episode which will force her out of the race.

But the Dean Scream worked, because a large portion of the electorate really had no clue as to who Dean was. He was still relatively unknown outside his dedicated band of supporters.

With Clinton the media dynamic is different. Number one, she's well known, and while a deranged few will believe that's what she meant, most will understand, having seen the previous treatment of Clinton by the media, that their CDS has taken hold again. And two, the media derangement works in her favor. She defies the media, and so do the voters. The more the media attacks, the more people support her.

They were at Code Blue but they had to skip Code Yellow and go straight for read(just like the other colors used to coincide with another politicians political fortunes.

Something to look forward to. /snark

Bill Clinton for First Dude!!!

Submitted by lambert on

I think the message of PA, WV, and KY is that now they do not. Also, in 2004, Dean had just lost. The whole point of the latest round of lekkage is that Hillary has not lost. I think people get this. And before we start throwing "rubes" around, remember that Bill Clinton's numbers were never higher than when the same assholes in the press were yammering at him. People get it, given time. And in this primary, people have had more than enough time.

And it's hard to think of a better way to push the SDs to stay neutral or move to Hillary than being hounded by the OFB that Avarosis is sicc-ing on them. Let them get a taste of what we've been dealing with since IA. All things work together for good!

[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

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Submitted by myiq2xu on

That's revealing.

Cheetoville, SN and Zsa Zsa's Huff-n-Puff are in full panty-twist mode.

So is Balloon Juice.

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Submitted by lambert on

Meaning they're not pushing it, but they're not calling bullshit either. Sigh.

[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

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Submitted by vastleft on

Pardon me if I steal that, OK?

See update above.

Submitted by [Please enter a... (not verified) on

You can't make what Hillary said sound wacky -- it just sounds like any sentence. She doesn't even mention Obama's name.

And here's an added bonus comment (copied from a comment I made at TalkLeft) In response to someone wondering about the significance of the primaries she mentioned (WHY or WHY didn't she mention Teddy's campaign?)

It wasn't 2 random presidential campaigns

She mentioned the June Primaries of her husbands first presidential election AND the first election in which she could vote -- the 1968 election was burned into the brains of everyone who lived through it.

But if you were a 21 year old that year (as Hillary was) it would have been especially significant.

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Submitted by Davidson on

For the media--on a global level*--to say she justified her staying in the race because Obama could be assassinated distorts not only her comments but also history: she compared herself to RFK because he continued the campaign in June and was a longshot. Obama, obviously, is the damn forerunner in this analogy, the Hubert Humphrey.

*I scanned various European papers and just about all have the following slanderous headline: "Clinton cites assassination as reason to stay in race." During the lead up to the invasion of Iraq, I could count on these papers for actual journalism but not today. I fear it's because of misogyny. Clinton is running to be the most powerful person in the world, not merely president of some random country so obviously there's going to be tremendous backlash.

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Submitted by Stellaaa on

The Obama campaign machine is using the MSM, the blogs and the supporters in the same way Bush used everyone in the March towards war.
The movement scares me I tell you.

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Submitted by FrenchDoc on

I had pretty much gotten used to media and big blogs BS. IT didn't really affect me anymore, more than make me laugh.

But you know what, now I want retribution for this. I don't know in what form (beyond no longer watching any cable news) exactly, but I want something.

Like someone said in another post or thread, now I want to actively campaign AGAINST Obama and the appendages of his campaign that are the cable news media and the big blogs.

This is character assassination... and yes, I'm using the expression on purpose.

Hopefully, this is a holiday weekend and it will pass, but if not, then, Tuesday, we should all be ready to go on the offensive.

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Submitted by dotcommodity on

remember cable makes money off the much soughtafter youthfull demographic. If they can tear the kiddies away from the youtube and the textingmessaging, theres beer ads to be sold.

I wonder if they still have the attentionspan neccessary though?

Strictly medical, deep breath,...otherwise - yep. you nailed it.

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Submitted by dupager on

as frenchdoc points out. this campaign has been the consistent, dedicated character assassination of a lifelong Democrat, someone who has given much to the country from her youth, who has won the world's respect as first lady, who has proven herself a vote getter and successful Senator (unlike my Senator Barry who has done NOTHING for Illinois that I can see, touch or taste).

This character assassination is by Democrats. It is appalling and horrific. And it deserves, when this is all over, it deserves retribution. I am sickened that supposed Democrats in the pursuit of their own power have made it their mission to lay waste the record of the 1990s and that so many Democratic politicians (the useful idiots like cardoza, mccaskill, et al) have gone along with it.

Money talks I guess. And the rest is just b.s.

PS: someone asked me why Ted Kennedy and Caroline Kennedy endorsed Barry if Hillary was such a good liberal DEmocrat. And I had no response. I mean, sure they said all the fluffy things.. but really, deep down, WHY?

dupager

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Submitted by zuzu on

The Republicans are going to have a fucking field day with this stuff. It hasn't escaped their notice that the party has been silent on the misogyny, and it has not escaped their notice that Donna Brazile, et al. have their thumb on the scale for Obama.

It has also not escaped their notice that there are a hell of a lot of disaffected voters who feel personally slighted by the party and by Obama's campaign/supporters.

The GOP sucks mightily at governing, but they know how to campaign. And they know that you do not, EVER, insult the voters.

Submitted by lambert on

Which they are happily doing, manipulated as they are.

Double shot? Cinnamon? Paper towel?

[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

Submitted by lambert on

I thought I wasn't innocent. But every time I think the baseline can't sink, it goes lower...

[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

Submitted by lambert on

... death threats, remember when we had a media critique?

You know, real ones, not lies peddled by Drudge and our tribunes of the people in the blogosphere....

[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

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Submitted by jackyt on

Remember Grover Norquist's ambition: reduce government to a size you can drown in the bathtub?

Remember who owns the MCM?

Remember who fills the campaign coffers and, by extension holds the lease on our politicians?

The politician who is being raked over the coals is the one with a record of fighting for the rights of all Americans: children, Latinos, African Americans, LGBTs, elderly, you name it. If a constituency has a problem, Hillary sees government as a positive force for correcting it.

Let me repeat : HILLARY SEES GOVERNMENT AS A POSITIVE FORCE FOR IMPROVING THE LIVES OF ALL AMERICANS!

I'm beginning to believe the misogyny, the reverse racism, and the CDS are all diversions. The forces aligned against Senator Clinton are the forces for which real democracy is an inconvenience, at least, and a boat anchor on the unfettered power of capital, at most.

There is no fear that Obama (anymore than George Bush) will speak truth to power. That's what makes him such an attractive candidate for the powers that be. So attractive, in fact, that I won't be surprised if the media turns its back on McCain and keeps up the Obama lovefest through the General.

Democracy R.I.P.

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Submitted by amberglow on

("rock a boat" doesn't describe it aptly enough)

McCain either--i believe all big money interests, Congress, and almost all DC Dems would be happy with either Obama or McCain--it's Edwards who was a threat before, and Hillary who is one now.

And it's now set up for an entirely issue-free campaign--no pesky economic or social problems at all--and neither has run on using the government as an active and practical force to help regular people---they've run away from all of that.

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Submitted by cal1942 on

who watches the nation crumble and can't figure out why.

I like what jackyt says:

"There is no fear that Obama (anymore than George Bush) will speak truth to power. That’s what makes him such an attractive candidate for the powers that be."

The prospect of having a schmuck President with a Democratic label is the reason I won't vote for Obama if he's the nominee. In the long term, damaging the Democratic Party is not good for the nation.

Submitted by lambert on

Granted, our famously free press drove Dean from the race with the Dean Scream (more an issue, IIRC, of staffwork than anything else).

But with the Gore sighs, the press changed the perception of the debate from Gore winning to Gore losing, and in a single news cycle. And gave the country the less qualified candidate as well.

Oddly, however, or not, even though the same players are using the same techniques to choose Obama for us, this doesn't sound any alarm bells at all.

Ill means, ill ends. (And I'd swear that Gandalf said that, but I can't find the quote anywhere.) Off to paint.

[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.