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The roll call for the Amash Amendment on NSA Surveillance

Here. Even though the good guys lost, the vote was unexpectedly close. (In Maine: Pingree, Yea (right); Michaud, Nay (wrong).)

The 205-to-217 vote was far closer than expected and came after a brief but impassioned debate over citizens’ right to privacy and the steps the government must take to protect national security. It was a rare instance in which a classified intelligence program was openly discussed on the House floor, and disagreements over the program led to some unusual coalitions.

Conservative Republicans leery of what they see as Obama administration abuses of power teamed up with liberal Democrats long opposed to intrusive intelligence programs. The Obama administration made common cause with the House Republican leadership to try to block it.

This is not over.

I'm going to call Michaud tomorrow and read the Fourth Amendment to him tomorrow. Asshole.

Oh, and Obama's officially a lame Fuck duck.

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Submitted by Rainbow Girl on

"The Obama administration made common cause with the House Republican leadership to try to block it."

Ditto -- Grand Bargain, PPACA, Guantanamo, More and Continued Wars in the Middle East.

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Submitted by gizzardboy on

Where would we find a list of who voted one way or the other? I expect that my congressman voted 'no" and I think that needs to be brought to light.

Submitted by lambert on

I don't compare politicians to prostitutes, either, for the exact same reason: It's unfair to prostitutes.

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Even though the left blogosphere has a zesty history of abuse involving bodily organs and what can be done with or to them, these metaphors are, I am convinced, destructive in the same way that "government is like a household" is destructive: They are not objective correlatives, they do not convey emotions adequate to their objects.

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Submitted by DCblogger on

Interesting look at the votes of the local Representatives. All the Virginia Democrats voted for the amendment, including Gerry Connolly who used to work for SAIC and has so many defense contractors in his district. Jim Moran voted for the amendment and the Pentagon is in his district. Republican Frank Wolf, whose district includes the CIA (I think, not sure of the current district lines) voted against the amendment.

In Maryland almost all the local Representatives, Chris Van Hollen and Steny Hoyer (D-MBNA) voted against the amendment. Only Donna Edwards voted for it. All are Democrats.

Submitted by Hugh on

As I remarked at NC last night, the only votes that tell you where a politician really stands are those on the winning side. Here it is the no votes that tell the tale. We simply don't know how many of the yes votes would have turned into no votes if they were needed to defeat the amendment. We live in a state that is so corrupt that we should never ascribe any importance to good intentions, only good results.

Submitted by mgmonza on

One of the best comments from the Guardian article on this vote:

michigan002 25 July 2013 6:43pm
'Oh sure, the NSA wants "dialog." They just don't want anything to CHANGE because of it.'

Dave_Krueger > michigan002 25 July 2013 7:29pm
'Yep. They like dialog so much they want to collect all of it and store it in a huge
warehouse in Utah.'

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Submitted by ralphbon on

[Comment of mine cross-posted from yesterday's FDL:]

By my informal count, which should be checked, 11 members of the Congressional Progressive Caucus voted against the amendment, plus one (Frank Pallone) who didn’t vote. Together, these 12 could have pushed the amendment through.

They should henceforth be known as the WTF Caucus.

They are:

Corrine Brown
Lois Frankel
Luis Guiterrez
Sheila Jackson-Lee
Eddie Bernice Johnson
Hank Johnson
Marcy Kaptur
Joe Kennedy III
Ann McLain Kuster
Jan Schakowsky
Louise Slaughter