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Note especially this:

The hospital left Duncan for hours in an area with other patients, supplied safety suits whose exposed necklines forced nurses to use medical tape to cover their skin, played down the need for more face masks and handled Duncan’s lab specimens without special seals, the group said.

So, the tape -- at least absent a protocol for its removal -- is, shall we say, a weak point. Making that ad especially cynical.

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Submitted by V. Arnold on

What we're seeing is another aspect of a broken infrastructure. To understand the scope of this, one has to think with very broad strokes, because this (broken infrastructure) is about e.v.e.r.y.t.h.i.n.g. that makes up the day-to-day life of a citizen, all citizens.
I think we really have no idea about what's broken and we'll soon find out in the worst possible way.
It's really pretty scary when all is said and done.

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Submitted by TheMomCat on

The duct tape would have worked if it had been used properly to seal the gaps between the gloves & sleeves and at the ankles between the pant leg & boots. There was no set protocols at this hospital, nor was the appropriate personal protective equipment supplied.

Dallas Nurses Accuse Hospital of Sloppy Ebola Protocols

Duncan was left in a nonquarantined zone for several hours, and a nurse supervisor faced resistance from hospital authorities after demanding that Duncan be moved to an isolation unit, according to the union’s statement. Additionally, Duncan’s lab specimens were sent through the hospital’s tube system, potentially contaminating the system, the nurses said.

Nurses who interacted with Duncan were given the option of wearing special N95 masks, but some supervisors said the masks were not necessary, the nurses said, according to the statement.

“For their necks, nurses had to use medical tape, that is not impermeable and has permeable seams, to wrap around their necks in order to protect themselves, and had to put on the tape and take it off on their own,” the statement reads.

“Nurses had to interact with Mr. Duncan with whatever protective equipment was available, at a time when he had copious amounts of diarrhea and vomiting which produces a lot of contagious fluids.”

This unacceptable and it is very clear that The hospital was not equipped to deal with a highly infectious disease as Ebola. Just keep your fingers crossed that no other hospital screws this up as badly.

Ebola is esily contained if appropriate procedures are employed. Tom Freidan should have been more aggressive in taking over the care of these patients. I think he knows that now.

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Submitted by V. Arnold on

...(who cared for Duncan) flew to Dallas from Cleveland on a commercial flight.
This is infrastructure, failed infrastructure.
Now, if only we can shut the hyperbolic MSM up and calm them down.
Being informed does not encourage panic; only ignorance can do that.

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Submitted by TheMomCat on

The nurse was asymptomatic and, under the guidelines a temperature of 99.5° F is not a fever, so she wasn't contagious. This is just the media hyping the RW fear mongering. No one on that flight is in danger of contacting Ebola

Submitted by Dromaius on

Both the sloppy protocols and the approval for the flight came straight out of the CDC.

Submitted by lambert on

... of the Medicine Sans Frontieres protocol, and they were only fighting it on the front lines!

IIRC, and I'm too lazy to find the link right now, MSF had a buddy system were one person would direct the suited-up person what to do, and this was great, because after hours dealing with ebola patients the suited-up person would be exhausted and stressed out of their kinds. So, like, "Spray whole buddy with chlorine. Now take off the hood. Now take off the pants. Now take off the gloves...." or whatever the order is. Drastically reduces the possibility of making a mistake.

When you read about the Texas Presbyterian situation... Waste piled to the ceiling, nurses not trained or even warned, it makes me want to spit. Those administrators should be drummed out of the field and I hope the hospital goes belly up pour encourager les autres.

Oh, and as far as the tape, I don't think it's the sealing that's the issue; I think it's the removal. Like imagine ripping duct tape covered with ebola fluid off your body and trying not to splatter it. Jeebus,

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Submitted by TheMomCat on

The CDC is now consulting with MSF.

As for the tape, if removed careful under the guidance of a partner, there is minimal splatter. Also, after each layer is removed, the worker is decontaminated. It takes longer to take off the PPE than put it on.

The big problems in Texas, besides the lack of training and waste, was the exposed neck, inches from the mouth, no assistance to remove the PPE and fatigue. IT was a recipe for disaster and were lucky there aren't more healthcare workers sick.

I've got my fingers crossed, were are nearing the 21 day incubation

Submitted by lambert on

Lots of people in the US now declared free of the disease, including Duncan's family.

Lending support to the idea that ebola is only contagious when symptomatic. Which is a great relief, but also throws the fecklessness of Texas Presbyterian into even sharper relief.

Submitted by EGrise on

Jeez, the more I read about the Ebola situation the more I realize "Jalopy State" doesn't go far enough: perhaps "Jalopy Society" or "Jalopy Civilization" are more accurate.

Submitted by lambert on

Because the riposte would be something shiny and new because markets.

So I need a word that not only has the connotation of falling to bits, but the idea of replacing it with something different and better, which "because markets" is not.