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TalkLeft: The Power of a Really Bad Example

Submitted by Randall Kohn on Mon, 04/04/2011 - 12:32pm
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Over at TalkLeft, Jeralyn wrote a post urging Obama's re-election. Aside from Obama's campaign vid which I won't link to 'cuz it ain't worth a goddamn, her post reads as follows:

Obama Makes It Offical: "It's Up to Us"

The Obama 2012 campaign began today with the release of this video he sent out to supporters. The message: It's up to us.

One guy in the video says: "I don't agree with Obama on everything, but I respect him and I trust him."

My view: Go Obama. I'm not taking any chances that our Supreme Court justices, our Attorney General and our top prosecutors will be chosen by a Republican. And if Republicans continue to gain seats in Congress, we need a Democrat in the White House even more. He needs an early start to claim his ground. I'm just glad there are no primaries for the Dems this time to make us take our eye off the prize. And he's right: It's up to us.

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Submitted by votermom on

vote for Palin (or Donald) and get exploding talking heads.
That would be one tangible benefit in my eyes. Because I really loathe the corporate media.

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Submitted by madamab on

Sorry, if I'm not voting for Obama, I'm certainly not voting for Palin or whomever the Repubs throw to the wolves in 2012. I'll probably vote Green again, if there's a Green on the ballot. Doesn't matter in my state, anyway - Obama will win.

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Submitted by votermom on

it's all the same to me. It's the "sure he's a lousy president but XYZ would be so much worse" arguments I can't stand.

Submitted by Randall Kohn on

validation of R craziness.

A better plan might be to decide on a write-in name en masse and then write in that name on election day.

It wouldn't even have to be a name: a short, agreed-on slogan might work as well. Or a set of initials: FDR works for me.

Submitted by Anne on

reflect some fairly common thinkingabout all of that:

But the reason I voted for Obama in 2008 is because I trust his judgment. And not in any merely abstract way, either: I mean that if he and I were in a room and disagreed about some issue on which I had any doubt at all, I'd literally trust his judgment over my own. I think he's smarter than me, better informed, better able to understand the consequences of his actions, and more farsighted."

Kinda makes you throw up a little in your mouth, doesn't it?

Now we have word that Khalid Sheik Mohammad will not be tried in federal court, as Eric Holder and the DOJ originally insisted would happen, but in a military commission, at Guantanamo.

I mean, how can you not respect these kinds of decisions coming out of a Democratic administration? Surely, a Republican would be so much worse, right?

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Submitted by votermom on

at how many of the commenters disagree with Jeralyn. Go Talklefters! Take back your brains!

Submitted by jawbone on

comment on"I trust Obama on anything I don't know all the details about." Which he has now explained and clarified, per update in Greenwald's post.
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Note to IE8 users who have problems with copy and paste inside comment box: I just installed IE9, and for the first link I was able to highlight words and use the link button for inserting the first link. I could not do that with the second link; that one kept being inserted before the existing body of the comment. So, I had to type that one in manually.

I tried to highlight the comment in case of problems and cannot get the highlighting to stay so that I can click on copy. I had to delete by holding down the delete button. Same old, same old.

So, my hopes for the internal comment box issues going away with the new version of Internet Explorer are dashed....

On final posting, I see that the first link also went before the body of the comment and not on the words I'd highlighted (the highlighting didn't remain after I moved the cursor to the HTML shortcut button, I recall).

Oh, well....

Also, just now, I was able to highlight the entire comment and could have copied. Interesting, but only works in editing mode so far.

Submitted by Hugh on

What a difference a few years makes. We used to laugh at and heap scorn on the Bush 26 percenters, you know the people who still liked Bush right up to the bitter end. How, we said, could anyone be so blind as to ignore the mountains of evidence that showed again and again he was the worst President in our history and that his Administration had been a calamity for the country? Indeed these were the very people for whom we coined the term wingnut. Now we see that the Democrats have their own version of the 26 percenters, their own wingnuts, for whom tribal loyalty trumps their lying eyes. These are the people who write all of those "Look at those crazy Republican" posts while they studiously ignore that the Democrats are every bit as bad. The problem that they all have is one of credibility. If they are so far off base on Obama, how can anyone, not an Obamabot, trust their judgment on anything?

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Submitted by votermom on

is that at least W was actually keeping his promises to them, for the most part iirc.
Federal $ for faith-based charities, tax rebates, right-wing SCOTUS picks, etc. It' just that his promises, along with his cronyism, had terrible outcomes.
O's 26%ers are truly pathetic because O constantly kicks them in the teeth and they come crawling back for more.

Submitted by Mulciber X on

You guys should check out the Campaign for a Mass Party of Labor. It's a group started to raise the issue of a mass labor party in the United States and bring it to the forefront of popular consciousness. The organizers don't claim that the CMPL will form the nucleus of an eventual Labor Party; they just want to get the idea out there, whatever form it may eventually take.

Part of the reason I love Corrente so much is because the contributors see through the "lesser evil" crap Democratic loyalists love to pull. The only real solution here is to take all the financial resources that the corrupt union leadership currently throws away on the Democrats and use it to fund a party that will actually stand up for the rights of ordinary workers. This isn't about forming a third party - it's about forming a first party, and let the Democrats and Republicans squabble for second place, or let them form a single Big Business party, since for all intents and purposes that's the way things are now.

Visit the CMPL website and tell me what you think:

http://www.masspartyoflabor.org/

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