Speaking of Coup: Troops Coming Home...But Not to Rest

Mon, 09/22/2008 - 1:43pm — chicago dyke

Army Unit to Deploy in October for Domestic Operations

Beginning in October, the Army plans to station an active unit inside the United States for the first time to serve as an on-call federal response in times of emergency. The 3rd Infantry Division’s 1st Brigade Combat Team has spent thirty-five of the last sixty months in Iraq, but now the unit is training for domestic operations. The unit will soon be under the day-to-day control of US Army North, the Army service component of Northern Command. The Army Times reports this new mission marks the first time an active unit has been given a dedicated assignment to Northern Command. The paper says the Army unit may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control. The soldiers are learning to use so-called nonlethal weapons designed to subdue unruly or dangerous individuals and crowds.

Fascism! Smell it!
I'll give a jar of homegrown sauce to the person who correctly predicts what manufactured 'emergency' will cause their use.

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Northern Command == Colorado

By lambert on Mon, 09/22/2008 - 1:47pm

== Christianist hotbed. Coincidence?

[ ] Very tepidly voting for Obama [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

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"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi

no.

By chicago dyke on Mon, 09/22/2008 - 1:51pm

it's not.

fucked. Very. Every tin foil hat wearer is creeping closer to respectability. There is no link to the Army Times on this story at Democracy Now. They give no reason for this unprecedented action. Keep your eyes wide open. A lot of this shit has been predicted and because it's in the newspapers and on TV we don't think we're being fooled. I'm not saying anything except that we must not go into denial about anything if, in fact, it's really happening. Just saying...

Thanks CD...your vigilance is appreciated.

Did they kill Posse Commitatus, Too? When was the funeral?

By dupager on Mon, 09/22/2008 - 2:15pm

I hate to be a fringe militia type (although I'll play one for this post), but how can any Federal troops be deployed domestically without repeal of Posse Commitatus?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comit...

"The Posse Comitatus Act . . . prohibits federal military personnel and units of the United States National Guard under federal authority from acting in a law enforcement capacity within the United States, except where expressly authorized by the Constitution or Congress. The Coast Guard is exempt from the Posse Comitatus Act."

Not that that would stop them..

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umm

By intranets on Mon, 09/22/2008 - 2:28pm

when FEMA went under DHS and all the shadow govt secret executive orders went into effect. Posse Commitatus it totally dead, just look at the RNC Convention for an example.

What is more shocking is that Natl Guard from other states may be sent into a state WITHOUT the Governor's request or even approval.

Simple answers to simple questions..

By lambert on Mon, 09/22/2008 - 2:49pm

Did they kill posse comitatus?

Yes. See Here and (OK, OK, DK but before the primaries, mkay?) here.

[ ] Very tepidly voting for Obama [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

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"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi

Posse comitatus was reinstated

By lambert on Mon, 09/22/2008 - 5:55pm

See Here. I was wrong.

Hat tip, arthur.

[ ] Very tepidly voting for Obama [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

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"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi

not to go all Godwin

By intranets on Mon, 09/22/2008 - 2:47pm

I'm not making any Nazi comparisons, but there is always the question of how people could have went along with it. It's all about this gradual incrementalism with media and fourth estate complicity.

First they came for Habeas.. And Congress did nothing. Then they came for FISA and Congress gave immunity. etc..

You know what, Fuck you Nancy Pelosi. Fuck you Russ Feingold. I hope some future cyber-historian can look back on this epoch and finds words like these (assuming they survive in some digital medium). I hope the history books will forever lump Pelosi and Reid and all of these idiots together with The Decider.

They also came for elections

By gqmartinez on Mon, 09/22/2008 - 2:58pm

The GOP has done it many times. This year, the Dems decided to jump on board with the acceptance of the caucus fraud (and overall absurdity; 1.1 million participants gave Obama the election while 33 million primary voters were not important), intimidation, etc and the RBC rulings and the sham roll call vote at the convention. If you wanna add and "F-you", I'd be happy with adding Obama supporters/enablers to that list.

When I point this out (and I'm sounding like a broken record these days), I'm a dead-ender who doesn't know how evil McCain/Palin is or who doesn't understand nuance or complexity.

Here's some detail from the Army Times

By lambert on Mon, 09/22/2008 - 5:30pm

Army Times:

They may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control or to deal with potentially horrific scenarios such as massive poisoning and chaos in response to a chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear or high-yield explosive, or CBRNE, attack.

Training for homeland scenarios has already begun at Fort Stewart and includes specialty tasks such as knowing how to use the “jaws of life” to extract a person from a mangled vehicle; extra medical training for a CBRNE incident; and working with U.S. Forestry Service experts on how to go in with chainsaws and cut and clear trees to clear a road or area.

The 1st BCT’s soldiers also will learn how to use “the first ever nonlethal package that the Army has fielded,” 1st BCT commander Col. Roger Cloutier said, referring to crowd and traffic control equipment and nonlethal weapons designed to subdue unruly or dangerous individuals without killing them.

“It’s a new modular package of nonlethal capabilities that they’re fielding. They’ve been using pieces of it in Iraq, but this is the first time that these modules were consolidated and this package fielded, and because of this mission we’re undertaking we were the first to get it.”

The package includes equipment to stand up a hasty road block; spike strips for slowing, stopping or controlling traffic; shields and batons; and, beanbag bullets.

“I was the first guy in the brigade to get Tasered,” said Cloutier, describing the experience as “your worst muscle cramp ever — times 10 throughout your whole body.

Via Arthur Silber.

[ ] Very tepidly voting for Obama [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

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"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi

we need research

By intranets on Mon, 09/22/2008 - 5:49pm

they have been field testing this in Iraq and Afghan quite a bit. It's like ~~human~~ subhuman guinea pigs.
The have dazzle green laser to temporarily blind crowds. Some type of pain microwave crowd control. They may have also used that new sticky foam that hardens instantly. For sure they have perfected the video game style UAV in urban theatre stuff.

lots of cool toys

By hipparchia on Tue, 09/23/2008 - 3:26am

sticky foam! and more!

And Obama's take on this is?

By jawbone on Mon, 09/22/2008 - 5:52pm

Anyone know?

Has he said anything about the misuse of official force in Minneapolis-St Paul during the Repub Convention?

Oh, that FISA vote seems more and more bothersome as time goes by....

They Put Protesters In Cages in Denver

By BDBlue on Mon, 09/22/2008 - 5:55pm

so I'm betting this is one of those post-partisan things. They'll do it under the auspices of preparing for another Katrina. Who could object to that?

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