SOTU open thread, especially if you can't stand it anymore

lambert's picture

Pravda quotes from the advance copy:

“Or we can restore an economy where everyone gets a fair shot, everyone does their fair share, and everyone plays by the same set of rules. What’s at stake are not Democratic values or Republican values, but American values. We have to reclaim them.”

Oh, bollocks. Prosecute some banksters, and then come back and talk about everybody playing by the same set of rules.

[head, desk]

I'll add a link to the transcript when there is one.

UDPATE Check the website. They have a number of roach motels lined up.

UPDATE The hash tag is #SOTU.

UPDATE Oh, Lordy, here's more of it. if this were 2009, fine:

He will also appeal to a national sense of fairness, asking listeners to “never forget” those who are hurting. “Millions of Americans who work hard and play by the rules every day deserve a government and a financial system that does the same. It’s time to apply the same rules from top to bottom: No bailouts, no handouts, and no cop-outs,” he will say. “An America built to last insists on responsibility from everybody.”

As it is, if this were going to happen, it would already have happened.

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coyotecreek's picture

I can't do it.

I just can't.

Wake me when it's over!

goldberry's picture

Wait! What happened to the Democratic candidate?

Is this a leap year?

Can we get a Democrat this year for crying out loud???

Come together at The Confluence

Alcuin's picture

Imagine

Imagine there's no SOTU
It's easy if you have no TV
No Gingriches below us
Above us only love
Imagine everyone with intelligence ...

I listened to the Liar-in-Chief for about 3 months after he was elected. I can't stand to hear his lying mouth flap in the breeze. Why anyone would believe him, I can't imagine. Americans are all 4 years old and believe in Santa Claus, too.

The important thing is to never stop questioning. - Albert Einstein

why i coulod never be a politician

they keep hugging each other. i'm watching the crowd before the speech starts, and these people all keep hugging each other. ugh. whatever happened to just shaking hands?

Alcuin's picture

All You Need is Love

The important thing is to never stop questioning. - Albert Einstein

if obama had invested hugely

if obama had invested hugely in infrastructure repair and improvement, we would have free broadband and i could actually watch the speech.

the 2012 republican presidential nominee:

barack obama.

so far we have:

- rah rah military heroes!

- our workers are now competitive with china!

- we have the highest corporate tax rates in the world!

And...now he wants to speed up college education timetables

--like, whatever happened to time to think about things? Really investigate issues? No, just rush, rush, rush to get out into...driving a taxi? Flipping burgers? Waiting tables? Or, for the big time, entry level at WalMart?

And if the universities don't push students through fast, fast, fast -- no more tax money for you guys! Whoa. Huge applause for that. Crikey.

jest's picture

OccupyDC will respond via the people's mic over livestream

So says HuffPo

They didn't coordinate this with the other occupations, it's just them.

wanderindiana's picture

Obama: Jaundice, or really bad spray tan?

And they used to make fun of Boehner for looking orange... Boehner looks downright healthy compared to the bad makeup Obama is wearing. I hope it's makeup -- I would hate to think his bilirubin level is through the roof....

He looks more orangey on CBS than on PBS (Well, NYC's PBS

station).

Looking at shot of Geithner, I found myself wondering if the

made men of Wall Street had identifying secret tattoos between their two outer toes. Right foot, of course, even for Neo-Lib Corporatists because they're all right leaning.

Do pols get theirs after they leave politics? Or for exemplary service to the Masters of the Universe?

wanderindiana's picture

Consumer watchdog

Who cares about mortgages we can't afford when credit card companies can charge interest at rates hundreds of times more than they borrow it?

wanderindiana's picture

Election reform or SEC rules?

Obama wants a bill outlawing insider trading by Congress? What about a bill overturning Citizens United? Or a bill for public funding of elections, period?

wanderindiana's picture

Re Education

Obama says states and schools have more control over education? Ha.

Think Liberally's picture

Argh

It's so frustrating seeing all the Dem/lib websites I've frequented for years buy into the "Obama's pivoting!" crapfest. Even I would've started believing it, except for you guys. It was so amazing to hear Lambert (weeks and months ago now, can't remember the exact post) scoff that all that had changed was that he was once again running for President. That he was posturing now that he could no longer actually change anything.

Every single article I've read talks as if Obama has really changed, but then without fail they also mention, as if it were some unconnected thing, how none of the measures he's proposing and hyping have a hell's chance of actually happening. So maybe he hasn't actually changed, hm?

I still (still!) dearly love reading these sites, but maybe I should starting weaning myself, eh? The shitstorm is only going to get heavier and more overwhelming as the months go by.

Plus, my god, the self-satisfied smugness re: the GOP candidates. If Gingrich wins, it's going to be unendurable. (The GOP nomination, heh, not the general. If he starts coming close to winning the general, the shitstorm of CONFORM CONFORM CONFORM will be deafening beyond belief.)

wanderindiana's picture

Foreign policy stuff, non-economic

Boring. Sorry, it all pales in comparison to the economic future of U.S. citizens.

wanderindiana's picture

San Dimas High School rules!

Thankfully, Wyld Stalyns get better....

wanderindiana's picture

"A speech about everything..."

"... Is a speech about nothing."

Too bad it was Peggy Noonan who just said this as I kinda liked the sentiment.

lambert's picture

Nooners isn't dumb...

And she's a far better writer than Jon Favreau.

First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win. -- Mahatma Gandhi

wanderindiana's picture

Yes. Favreau...

... gives this guy a bad name.

Listening only, I was...stunned at how much Obama sounds

like a Republican when he talks about foreign relations and use of our military. There ought to have been a wall of flags behind him. Really, except for lacking the drawl and slurring, it could have BushBoy.

He may have believed Iraq was a "bad" war, an unnecessary and wrong war, but he seems to think that any use of military action he comes up with is just absolutely necessary and right. Peachy keen, even.

Just like those indefinite detentions, warrantless wiretaps, and, of course, any killing by executive fiat (assisted by some kind of NSA committee).

How's that make you feel about your Constitutional rights, eh? Your Constitution?

If it's Romney v. Obama, it's Tweedledum and Tweedledee. If it's (I had to laugh just thinking about it) Gingrich, it's Tweedledum on speed...or crack...v. Tweedledee. I think Romney will pull it out. And, cripes, Gingrinch didn't get himself on the freakin' ballot in Virginia???

NWLuna's picture

You're still stunned

by Obama sounding like a Republican?

Get over it. We'll likely have 4 more years of this DINO.

DCblogger's picture

David Swanson watches SOTU so we don't have to

Killing Iraqis Makes Us Safer — And Other Lies

also:

America: if we all ignore our petty differences and work together, we can kill people
@tinyrevolution
Jon Schwarz
lorac's picture

the pundits afterwards were worse

as if anything could have been worse

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Since the primary motive of evil is disguise, one of the places evil people are most likely to be found is within the church.

Additional excerpts can be found here. "Utterly dedicated to preserving their self-image of perfection, they are unceasingly engaged in the effort to maintain the appearance of moral purity. They are acutely sensitive to social norms and what others might think of them. They seem to live lives that are above reproach. The words "image", "appearance" and "outwardly" are crucial to understanding the morality of 'the evil'. While they lack any motivation to be good, they intensely desire to appear good. Their goodness is all on a level of pretense. It is in effect a lie. Actually the lie is designed not so much to deceive others as to deceive themselves. We lie only when we are attempting to cover up something we know to be illicit. At one and the same time 'the evil' are aware of their evil and desperately trying to avoid the awareness." Peck's material, I feel, has great potential for analyzing and deconstructing the nature and behavior of the wing of the Republican party that has captured our government. With the caveats, that Peck raises, that evil is very dangerous to analyze--since we are, after all, all vulnerable to it.

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