Should Progressives Vote Obama in a Swing State?
HONKALA: You're probably correct. I wasn't aware of that. But people like Rosa Clemente and Shamako Noble, Medea Benjamin, these are all folks—Sister Margaret McKenna, all of these folks have been out there helping to build this movement, helping to build this struggle in this country.
We, too, need to come to a point where we understand that there has to be a beginning. And we think that the beginning is now and that we've got to cut with the abusive party of the Democrats that once they throw us down the stairs once, twice, three times, it's okay for us to leave our abusers.
JAY: So, Jeff, what do you make of this argument, which I think you could extend a bit to say that the Democrats simply don't really ever have to worry about, quote-unquote, pressure from the left, because the left always thinks the right is the more—the Republicans are the more dangerous option, and when President Obama does win—and we saw that in the last four years—you know, he couldn't care less that the health care debate, the single-payer person wasn't even invited to the table, that if you don't send this kind of message, that actually you could lose—there's no such thing as pressuring the Democratic Party from the left?
COHEN: Paul, remember, the Democrats did lose in 2000, or they had the election stolen from them, and it didn't exactly make the Democratic Party more left. I would argue they were more abject corporatist and militarist in 2001, 2002, and 2003.