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Send WI protesters a solidarity pizza!

UPDATE In comments, Affinis says the WI protesters need earplugs (so they can sleep) and THIN blankets (so they can sleep warmly).

UPDATE I'm going to leave this sticky. Let's try to imagine ways to help the protesters, who have events planned for today and Tuesday. We can do that remotely if we can get WI small businesses to deliver to the site. Yes, that's experimental, and why not experiment? It's certainly working with pizza! --lambert

[Hoisted from comments, hat tip Valhalla --lambert]

UPDATE Since it's now dinner time, it might be good to send the protesters a pizza from Ian's!

UPDATE It's snowing today. I'm sure the protesters could use handwarmers, too. Here's a map of sport goods stores in Madison; maybe some of them would deliver to the protester's encampment.

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UPDATE Since it's midnight, now, here's a map of breakfast places near the Capitol in Madison, WI.

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Myles Teddywedgers Cornish Pasty looks like the closest, and the food looks good, too. I think I'll call them (608) 257-2383 tomorrow and pay for a protester's breakfast [done!]. That debit card I got must be good for something. The protesters look like they're camping out, and it might snow. Finally, something tangible to do! --lambert]

From Hoyden commenter tigtog:

Also, a pizza place that let folks online know that they could buy pizzas to send to the protestors there has received such a response that they’ve now stopped normal orders and are only processing orders for the protest: via pharyngula

This was just posted on Ian’s Facebook Wall:

This is astounding! As of right now, Ian’s Pizza on State’s normal in-store and delivery operations are on hold — due to the high volume of calls, we are only processing orders donated to the protesters. By our (rather harried) count, we’ve heard from 30 states and 5 countries (including Egypt, Korea, and our northern friends, Canada). Wow. Thank you! To our regular customers: We really apologize, but… wow.


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NOTE I like this approach -- which I think is new [#174] -- because it speaks to the issue of our continental scale. And I'd certainly rather give money to a local restaurant, and have food delivered to the protesters, than funnel anything through the Ds. Besides, I think it's better theatre, and shows small business there is an upside to all this, if they will leverage it.

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Submitted by hipparchia on

it's not entirely new [and anybody else who wants to set up additional efforts: breakfast! coffee! hot chocolate! can read in comments on this post how they did this for the wga strike], but i can't find anything else on the list that seems to fit either.

since ian's has decided to deliver only to the protestors, you could maybe stretch the definition of preclusive purchasing [#186], maybe it's preclusive selling...

and if you decide to stick with local vendors, instead of chains, you're also practicing---

wait, did you just now disappear the nv page? i was going to add whatever number it is for selective patronage, but i just got a page not found error.

Submitted by hipparchia on

send them cheap plastic tarps? or handwarmers? i dunno, you northerners will have to help me out with this one, i dig out my ski suit whenever the temperature here drops below 50.

Submitted by jawbone on

have to emphasize might) help to undermine the propaganda being put out by by Repubs, most Dems, and, of course, the Versailles courtiers of the MCM (Mainstream Corporate Media).

Just now, on the McLaughlin Report, every panel member, from as far left as is permitted (Eleanor Clift) to the right, all agreed that the states' debts must be addresed --only cuts were mentioned, not tax increases on the rich-- and especially, on the national level, the "big money" of the entitlements must be taken on by Obama and Congress.

Not one panel member mentioned that Walker increased the state deficit with tax cuts for business and his cronies immediately upon taking office and now is saying those very deficits are the reason for his "need" to cut state employees" pay, benefits, pensions, and removing collective bargaining as tool for the workers to use to regain any of these cuts.

No one mentioned the state economic report that Wisconsin might well have a surplus at the end of the year if nothing is done.

According to one WI blog, the deficit info was reported but buried in the way back pages by the Milwaukee Journnal, which was always primarily an establishment, more conservative paper, but once had competition and without it and in the current atmosphere seems to moving ever rightward.

Brief, pithy, to the point (with citations) LTE's might do much more for the protesters and the rest of non-Uberwealthy America than any number of pizzas.

Also, having been on a teachers' strike and picketing every day during January-February* in Milwaukee, I can attest that Wisconsinites know how to dress for cold weather. Think about Packer fans in that open air Lambeau Field stadium in very cold weather, single digits and even below zero -- they know how to dress for the weather. Think deer hunting, especially bow and arrow where the hunter is usually in a tree stand and can barely move without alerting the deer.

If people have money to spare, fine; otherwise, hit the keyboards.

Examples welcome! Links to well-presented posts most welcome!

Brief is hard, btw -- but it seems to me that small local papers accept slightly more words per letter than, say the NYTimes does (unless the writer has a well-known name).

*There was great joy in Beer Town when the contract end date was moved to May, at least among teachers. Administrators got all the benefits we fought for, but did not have to strike. Same for scabs. This was back in the days of school boards hiring "union busting" negotiators who went from school district to school district to assist in managing the negotiations and also developing propaganda against teachers -- they get paid for a year, but only work 9 --10-- months; look at the few hours per day they work!; they are parasites on the body politic, etc. Sound familiar?

Update: Inside Washington host did mention Walker created his own deficit argument with his own tax cuts. So far, no panel member has addressed this!! Krauthammer went immediately to bad teachers skipping school to protest. Meacham went back to his bad public employee unions, which even FDR thought shouldn't have collective bargaining rights, and those evil unions control state legislatures and in the past stole the cookie jar by care and pensions and, gasp, vacation days.

They ignored the question and the host let them. I bet it was done to show that the program is "fair and balanced," without, obviously letting the public understand the point the host made.

But they're so uneducated about all this no one on the show seems to recall the Arkansas went bankrupt during the thirties and it held that state's economic and general development back into the late mid-20th C. It's one of the reasons Arkansas has a general reputation of being backward; it was't just their actions during the beginning of integration. Down the Memory Hole.

Our elites suck big time. But, when offered the high income teat, I guess I can understand why they do it. Only Repubs used to be able to get on that Big Bidness/Wall Street teat, so now that Dems can have some access no wonder they roll over for whatever the donors of their largesse grant them. Ack.

Submitted by hipparchia on

thanks for the reminder. and yes this:

Not one panel member mentioned that Walker increased the state deficit with tax cuts for business and his cronies immediately upon taking office and now is saying those very deficits are the reason for his "need" to cut state employees" pay, benefits, pensions, and removing collective bargaining as tool for the workers to use to regain any of these cuts.

is certainly one point that needs to be given some more [ok, a lot more] publicity.

Submitted by hipparchia on

of course they know how to do this, and much more so than i do, that's for sure.

the point of sending food [or other supplies] to protestors is (1) so that they don't have to leave their sit-ins, picket lines, etc, and (2) because it's extremely heartwarming to be out there doing something [like protesting] and have complete strangers practicing random [or even concerted] acts of kindness towards you.

Submitted by MontanaMaven on

Wisconsin Budget Surplus?

There is fierce debate over the approach Walker took to address the short-term budget deficit. But there should be no debate on whether or not there is a shortfall. While not historically large, the shortfall in the current budget needed to be addressed in some fashion. Walker’s tax cuts will boost the size of the projected deficit in the next budget, but they’re not part of this problem and did not create it.

We rate Maddow’s take False.

But, in general, doing LTEs that address the real culprits are the best plan. If 83 out of the top 100 US companies paid taxes instead of hiding them in tax havens, we wouldn't be in this mess. Last year the financial MOTU took in compensation and bonuses of 140 billion, enough to pay all the states' deficits. We aren't broke. Join the US Uncut movement

Submitted by WRhouse on

including taxes and a $2 tip for the driver. They (Ian's) have just been overwhelmed by the number of calls/orders and are amazed by all the different places people are calling from. Oh, and if you're interested, the pizza they've been sending to people is a WI favorite - a mac and cheese pie.

Submitted by jawbone on

Capitol at 2 AM. From Tweet by Greg Mitchell.

When I took part in taking over a university building back during the protests aganst Nixon invading Cambodia, they eventually cleared it out with a SWAT-type police raid between 4 and 5 am, when people staying overnight had finally gone to sleep.

Sleep. Got to have enough numbers for shifts on guard duty....

Submitted by jawbone on

a link to their sites? What happens is the back arrow won't get me out and I have to close the whole tab. It won't close just the Twitter or Facebook site. It's infuriating.

I'm assuming it's a marketing feature on their part? or...what?

Submitted by hipparchia on

yes, some sites do that on purpose, but i haven't noticed it happening routinely with twitter or facebook when i follow links to them.

Submitted by hipparchia on

i was going to suggest browser differences as a possible explanation, but my computer has ie8/win7 too.

i dunno what's going on then.

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Submitted by basement angel on

There was a protest on campuses just a couple years ago, though I don't remember the motivation. anyway, NPR or so, picked it up and was covering the protest and the fact of the coverage, increased the impact.

What was that? Maybe something we could use as a model again?

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Submitted by affinis on

and other food was very much appreciated. Really helped keep people's spirits up. Ian's has received donations for pizza from not just almost every state in the nation, but from all over the world. And reporters have noticed this. Glass Nickel Pizza also has been receiving donations and making deliveries to the capital (a worker there mentioned fielding donation calls from EU countries, Korea, Saudi Arabia, etc.).

Despite the snow and freezing rain today, a lot of us were still out there (had three underlayers on myself - thermal longjohns are popular in Wisconsin). The people occupying the capital overnight have it the hardest (sleeping on cold marble floors, noisy, etc.) - they're pretty exhausted. If anyone has any ideas for things that might continue to buoy their spirits, that would be good. Major rallies are planned for Monday and Tuesday.

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Submitted by affinis on

I think the thermal blankets and ear plugs are great ideas. I also think that's true of the air matresses, with the important caveat that they would have to be very skinny ones - anything wider would tend to block the relatively narrow walkways where many people are sleeping and would cause problems with the capital police (and we're trying very hard to avoid causing any such problems/complaints - it's critical not to give any reason to close down the occupation).

Submitted by JuliaWilliams on

I found this at a place called Blain's (earplugs, pads, space blankets):
They've got 27 blankets, 4 pads (might be able to get more from sister store), and alot of earplugs. The delivery fee is $40 (!!), but I may be able to get it waived, only after speaking to the manager in the am (drats). Any ideas/thoughts?

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Submitted by affinis on

I'm not sure this would work - but I wonder if Union Cab (608-242-2000) could do a delivery like this for a low rate. It's a cooperative member-owned cab company and they've been supporting us (with a cab procession to the capital, etc.).

Submitted by lambert on

As here?

Having an end point for delivery would close the loop somewhat. I strongly encourage you to work this out (I send pasties on Sunday!). IFF we can work out a protocol for this, we can help protesters and small businesses directly, without getting rent-seekers in the middle. So it's a [#174].

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Submitted by affinis on

That would work and would probably be optimal for supplies of various sorts. 300NE is basically the central in-capital coordination room for the protest.

For food though, just asking that it be delivered to protesters at the capital is working great. The delivery folks come in with food and ask if anyone needs it. It's distributed equitably. If it's a unusual specialty food item (e.g. vegan pizza), the delivery people might look around to spot folks who look appropriate for that type of order.

Incidentally, Myles Teddywedgers was a fine choice - their pasties are indeed delicious (it's a small operation though - they would have difficulty handling a mass volume of orders).

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Submitted by affinis on

One of the more creative donations was a small bucket of cherry throat lozenges, for all the people hoarse from chanting.

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Submitted by Valhalla on

inside the State House [#173].

Unfortunately, have to h/t Bowers, via Lambert.

It looks like they've got the marching band [#36] there, and they're having a lot of fun. Lots of home-made signage [#8], also a good sign.

Submitted by lambert on

List is here.

1. Find the number for a non-violent form of protest or persuasion.

2. Type it in your post or comment (close to the example)

3. Select the number

4. Click the NV button at right. The link to the NV list will be automatically created. I find this is a really good way to focus on what's happening, a good thread, instead of listening to speeches let alone the teebee. Really concentrates the mind on the ground.

Submitted by SophieCT on

Ian's is now taking orders in increments of $20. Each $20 donation covers either a pizza or a "whole bunch of sodas."

Thanks for posting this idea and giving the rest of us a chance to participate.

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Submitted by affinis on

Ian's has received donations from all 50 states + DC, 28 countries, and even a donation from scientists working in Antarctica.

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Submitted by LostClown on

and I thank you all for donating.

I've also been facebooking the hell out of this (everyday and twice a day usually). My Wobbly friends highly approve of these actions. (Yes I am a Wob)


The post got picked up on Twitter! Now on The #wiunion Daily!

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Submitted by affinis on

Thanks hipp for calling people's attention to
It's a core coordinating site, with lots of info.

Submitted by hipparchia on

glad to know that it's a reliable source of info. thanks for the feedback.

Submitted by JuliaWilliams on

Thanks to some donations from MI Greens, tonight there will be 20 space blankets, 4 pads, 5 fleece blankets, and 20 multi-packs of earplugs delivered to the Capitol, via Union Cab (h/t Lambert for the cab idea!)

Submitted by lambert on

We should try to follow up on these actions and see how people on the ground felt about them. If we can get a protocol set up, we can do this again and again...

Submitted by lambert on

Can you get in touch with whoever "received word"? It would be great to have email from them on this, or even a post, or a live blog. I like the idea of direct contribution, but until we've closed the loop on lessons learned from an actual recipient, I won't feel quite comfortable...

Submitted by JuliaWilliams on

definitive reply was from affinis in a "correntemail" reply-I wasn't going to post the reply, but I don't think affinis would mind my reference here. The email from defend wisconsin was in reply to my query, and they validated the receipt of a "bunch of earplugs" and assorted goods, but affinis's research "at the source" was more helpful. I do believe a more effective way of validating receipt of goods would be helpful...maybe a firm contact, or a signed delivery receipt, ala UPS?

Submitted by JuliaWilliams on

definitive reply was from affinis in a "correntemail" reply-I wasn't going to post the reply, but I don't think affinis would mind my reference here. The email from defend wisconsin was in reply to my query, and they validated the receipt of a "bunch of earplugs" and assorted goods, but affinis's research "at the source" was more helpful. I do believe a more effective way of validating receipt of goods would be helpful...maybe a firm contact, or a signed delivery receipt, ala UPS?

Submitted by jawbone on

By Scott "Hosni Mubarek" Walker! LINK Or just...bureaucracy?

More parallels with Egypt...?

But, there are laws which may have been broken! (By Repubs? Whodathunkit?)

Former Wisconsin Assistant Attorney General Charles Hoornstra said that, if Walker is blocking the website, it could be a violation of state and federal laws concerning free speech laws. The accusation by the Wisconsin Democratic Party accompanies an accusation by the Teaching Assistants Association that Wisconsin state authorities cut off wifi access to a room they had taken over as a headquarters inside of the Capitol. (My emphasis)

But, look, the state administration has an excuse:

State Department of Administration spokeswoman Carla Vigue responded, saying, "DOA's security software automatically blocked the site, as it does all new websites."

"No one here at DOA decided to block it or took action to do so," he said. "The website is handled like any other website."

Submitted by hipparchia on

that photo alone makes the clickthrough worth it!

it's possible that it's just plain old bureaucracy. back when i worked in govt, we used to call the person in charge of the system's security our internet nazi because of the draconian rules.

otoh, it would make my day to find out that walker did indeed illegally block the site.

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Submitted by Shearwater on

A few words from Madison: THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!

Myself, I can't get down to the Capitol as much as I'd like because I work full-time (at a small business) and am going to school in the evening. I had the idea last week on my own to order some pizzas for delivery to the protesters and on Friday night saw pizzas coming in, which let me know that others had the same idea. But Saturday was truly amazing when I went to Ian's Pizza with friends for some food and found out that everybody's pizza had already been paid for by people calling in from around the country. A classmate who works there said that the store's three phone lines were completely jammed with people calling to donate. I loved seeing people giggle like schoolgirls upon realizing how much love and support we have from people far outside the city.

I can't begin to tell you how unique, and special, and how important are these donations. Not only does the food provide bodily sustenance to volunteers who literally have not left the Capitol building for 5 days or more, but also gives everybody spiritual sustenance. It's tangible evidence that this struggle is not just about a few state workers in Wisconsin, that it's big, it's important and that people all over the world support it and us. THANK YOU!

P.S. Here's some information about other ways to help:

The Willy Street Co-op can provide natural and locally-grown food to the protesters. Call (608) 251-6776 to purchase a gift card for the protesters, and the Co-op will deliver food from the store. The Co-op has provided much of the fruit, veggies and healthier foods. (On the web at

Also, a special request by some dedicated volunteers down at the Capitol: Flowers! George's Flowers is a local, family business located only a few blocks away and you can reach them at (608) 255-5500.