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Saturday Speculative Sweeps

So the primaries draw near and people who are not political junkies are starting to pay attention. Numbers are shifting wildly in unexpected directions. Not a vote has been cast yet and it's anybody's race.

Who do you think is going to be the Democratic nominee, and who on the Republican side? Not who you WANT to win, who do you think WILL win? Take off your preferences hat and put on the cold green eyeshade of the oddsmaker.

Optional bonus round: what matchup would be the most interesting to watch play out? Hillary vs. Guiliani? Obama vs. Huckabee? Edwards vs. Romney? Some variant of the above?

Note: Al. Gore. Is. Not. Running. Please do not cite him in any of the questions posed above. However for an optional bit of amusement,

you may revise and expand your remarks for any of the Matchup questions to include who you consider the most likely pick for vice-president for any of the above.

I mention only the Top Three in both races, but if you think somebody else could come in as a longshot or even late entry (EXCEPT GORE DAMMIT! HE. IS. NOT. RUNNING.) feel free to list a name.

Particularly for the VP discussion: like, hey, how do you think an Obama-Jim Webb ticket would play out? VP nominees do not have to be, and historically most often have not been, people who were in major play for the presidential contest.

Just had a two-hour talk (very cordial oddly enough, the decibel level only broke 120 a couple of times and no unkind profanity was employed...very strange) with Prince Namor on the subject and I thought I would throw the question out to the Greater Readership. Lay on, MacDuff, and curs'd be he who first cries, Hold, Enough!

I'll tell you how our conversation turned out at the end of the day. I want to hear your thoughts.

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Submitted by lambert on

So:

1. Clinton/Shuler

2. Romney/... J.C. Watts? Jeb Bush?

Clinton wins in a squeaker, after laughing too much in the debates.

Romney's involved in a hedge fund collapse, but turns that to his advantage ('learned from the experience').

The Dems don't get to 60 in the Senate.

Midway through the campaign, the economy implodes, and it will be clear that neither candidate has a clue what to do, but we're stuck with them anyhow.

The inauguration takes place while DC is in lockdown because of terror threats.

We. Are. Going. To. Die. We must restore hope in the world. We must bring forth a new way of living that can sustain the world. Or else it is not just us who will die but everyone. What have we got to lose? Go forth and Fight!—Xan

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Submitted by scarshapedstar on

Clinton/Clinton vs. Huckabee/Giuliani.

But I still believe
And I will rise up with fists!!

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Submitted by vastleft on

"always in motion is the future."

Last time around, the powers that be coronated Kerry in Iowa, and that was that. If the back-room DLC boys and girls still rule, it'll be Hillary.

The fact that no one I've ever met prefers her makes me wonder, though. Obama's supporters have a miraculous ear for tuning out his bullshitting, and that I suppose is a plus in this endeavor. He is charismatic, and maybe Dems might be hungry to go in that direction.

As for the Repubs, I've been thinking Huckabee, because the media's "nice guy" narrative is so seductive. The other guys are obviously afraid of him, so oppo stories are getting extremely easy to come by. I'd like to believe that people are creeped out by Romney the way a dog in a sci-fi or horror movie can sense the presence of a humanoid monster (hence, they're strapped to car roofs), but I'm not sure. And Rudy's "fair and balanced" narrative may, like the fella himself, have legs.

So, with margin of error of 100%, I really can't call this thing.

Submitted by [Please enter a... (not verified) on

Being a cynic, I think the anointed ones will be Hillary for the Dems and Rudy for the Thugs. It's not like the party machines actually pay attention to people like us (with e-voting wizardry and the Supremes unprecedented 2000 precedent, we're mere flotsam anyway), and I can practically hear the peptalks they give each other:

"Yeah, a LOT of people hate our girl Hillary, but wait till they read all the salacious dirt we have on that cross-dressing egomaniac Rudy."

and:

"Values voters already know that every catastrophe of the last 7 years is Bill Clinton's fault (cuz we told 'em so); wait till we tell 'em that bitch Hillary had a vise grip on his balls the entire time."