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Rep. Paul is reputed to be such a strict religious fundamentalist that he doesn’t ever travel alone with a woman other than his wife. So at first it may have come as a shock to see Bunny Ranch brothel [Warning! Sooo NSFW] owner Dennis Hof show up for the campaign stop in Reno yesterday, accompanied by working girls “Brooke Taylor” and “Air Force Amy”. According to Anjeanette Damon of RGJ.com, Paul recovered and gave such a convincing speech that Hof is now a convert:
"Makes a lot of sense, doesn't he?"
"I'll do it today," he said. "I'll get all the Bunnies together and we can raise him some money. I'll put up a collection box outside the door. They can drop in $1 dollar, $5 dollar contributions. What a great way for the working girls to support Ron Paul. It's just the right thing to do."
A strict Christian receiving contributions from prostitutes and johns, collected at a brothel? Can that possibly be morally acceptable?
Campaign spokesperson Jeff Greenspan seems to think so:
"On a personal basis, he doesn’t condone those things. At the same time, from his campaign perspective, it's not the role of federal government and it's not in the constitution for federal government to regulate these things. The Nevada voters and Legislature have decided it is a legal activity in this state."
So there you have Ron Paul’s ethical standards defined; whoring is bad but getting money from the earnings of whores is no problem. At least he’s clear on the whole separation of church and state thing, suppose that’s good. Hopefully he will be able to launder this cash without getting in any trouble. The Heavy Duty cycle, with enzyme detergent.
And how you might wonder did Mr. Huff and the Ladies come to be at Paul’s function? Thought you’d never ask. They arrived by limo at the invitation of and accompanied by….
wait for it…….
Tucker Carlson.
(But wouldn’t that be one brothel owner and THREE whores in the limo?)
What did Tucker have to say for himself?
"Dennis Hof is a good friend of mine, so when we got to Nevada I decided to call him up and see if he wanted to come check this guy out."
And, apparently, stop by the whorehouse on the way.
Mrs. Carlson was not immediately available for comment.
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I'd like to point out...
Christ's detractors most often accused him of consorting with "tax collectors and prostitutes." And indeed, he did spend a great deal of time with these people, meeting with them, eating with them, talking to them.
Obviously, if he saw them as individuals worthy of attention and love without condoning their actions, shouldn't all Christians be doing the same thing?
Yes, but
Jesus wasn't their pimp.
But I still believe
And I will rise up with fists!!
But I still believe
And I will rise up with fists!!
It's a two-fer
It's both a Christianist
dog whistle (see above) and a libtard dogwhistle, since they'd decriminalize prostitution along with marijuana, and for the same reasons.
The libertarians are certainly right on marijuana, and who's to say they're not right on the other? If I had to pick who caused the greatest harm to the republic, it would definitely be Tucker Carlson, and not his working girl arm candy. Or Ashcroft, who sent another dogwhistle early in his career by going after brothels in, of all places, New Orleans. Of course, God cleansed New Orleans of the ungodly later on, but no doubt Ashcroft had brought the matter to his attention.
We. Are. Going. To. Die. We must restore hope in the world. We must bring forth a new way of living that can sustain the world. Or else it is not just us who will die but everyone. What have we got to lose? Go forth and Fight!—Xan
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi
You guys surely preach the
You guys surely preach the word of Jesus. A man whom had no connection with Ron Paul, shows up, and says he is going to endorse him.
My my, Ron Paul isn't practicing his moral Christian values! If he accepts such dirty money, he must endorse it!
You guys make me sick, it's no wonder there are so many atheist now-a-days. If everybody was more like Jesus I can assure you, there'd be a lot more Christians.
But you decide to take the low-road and smear a good man, in the name of what? Makes me sick.
Pinning my irony meter there, brent
I'm confused.
Should Paul accept a campaign donation from a male madame, or not?
What would Jesus do, assuming, arguendo, that Jesus, if he existed, and as the, or a, Christ, would have run for political office?
We. Are. Going. To. Die. We must restore hope in the world. We must bring forth a new way of living that can sustain the world. Or else it is not just us who will die but everyone. What have we got to lose? Go forth and Fight!—Xan
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi
its clear to me now
Tucker Carlson is Jesus.
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Grow up, Paulist.
We can admit that we're killers ... but we're not going to kill today. That's all it takes! Knowing that we're not going to kill today! ~ Captain James T. Kirk, Stardate 3193.0
We can admit that we’re killers … but we’re not going to kill today. That’s all it takes! ~ Captain James T. Kirk, Stardate 3193.0
1 John 4:18
Brent, I like Air Force Amy. Who's your favorite?
More importantly, Who Would Jesus Do?
Smarter Paultards, please!
UPDATE And here's a tip; don't try to pay Amy in Ron Paul Dollars, mkay?
We. Are. Going. To. Die. We must restore hope in the world. We must bring forth a new way of living that can sustain the world. Or else it is not just us who will die but everyone. What have we got to lose? Go forth and Fight!—Xan
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi
the invisible hand will light your fire
"Air Force Amy was born on August 5, 1965 in Ohio, three miles east of Cleveland. She began working in prostitution young, and says that her brother sold her for a half pack of cigarettes when she was ten years old." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Force_Amy
and he smoked the other half. the rest is unfettered "free market" family values history. hey, does that cigarette machine accept Ron Paul dollars?
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This article is absolutely
This article is absolutely disgraceful. You (the author) are a coward. You can't attack Dr. Paul on his personal character, because his character is nothing short of admirable... So, you attack him for not judging and attempting to control the character of others. That is absolutely pathetic.
You are absolutely insane if you think you are on to something here.
What a strawman...
Smarter Paultards
Sometimes, Lambert, your sunny optimism leaves me breathless – “Better" Paultards, so not likely.
Poor Brent is struggling to communicate something – maybe I can help.
He writes “My my, Ron Paul isn’t practicing his moral Christian values! If he accepts such dirty money, he must endorse it!”
Well, yes, actually. Spokesperson Greenspan dodges the issue, by first talking about how prostitution isn’t the Federal government’s business (we know that already) and that of course
SaintDoctorRepresentative Paul doesn’t condone such behavior – but – and that’s a nice but – he will take the money anyway. What would Jesus do? Guidance can be found in Micah 1:7Jesus may well have consorted with sinners in order to save them, but the Bible makes clear that profit from harlotry, from fornication for hire (Hosea 9:1) or any ill-gotten gains (Proverbs 10:2) are ungodly and to be abjured. The issue for Ron Paul is one of hypocrisy – he cannot condemn the practice of whoring, which as a good Christian he must, and simultaneously benefit from the proceeds. He should have refused the offer of financial support from Mr. Hof. It isn’t too late to do so, and I would be delighted to help phrase that press release.
Brent again: “You guys make me sick, it’s no wonder there are so many atheist now-a-days.”
No wonder indeed. If my ministry brings more people to the joy of atheistic agnosticism, I am well pleased.
And again: “If everybody was more like Jesus I can assure you, there’d be a lot more Christians.”
And if everybody was more like the Flying Spaghetti Monster, there’d be a lot more noodles. You think Pastafarianism is stupid, Brent? Not as stupid as this.
On an upbeat note, the Ladies listened to what Paul had to say and remained skeptical:
Hookers have more common sense than Paultards. More than a little something there to think about.
Guy thinks I’m a coward. I think Guy is a fool, and Ron Paul is a manipulative fuckwit – but those are just opinions. Ron Paul’s willingness to knowingly take money from prostitutes is a fact.
[Note: Brent writes “You guys…” I’m not sure who amongst us should be more appalled.]
I love the Bible quotations
My personal view is that the worship of Ishtar should be revived, and temple prostitution be reinstituted. The benefits are manifold and obvious, starting with the destruction of the Christian church by a more effective competitor.
Jeebus, farmer, Amy's got her own Wikipedia entry? My head is exploding.
And I'm with bringiton:
Indeed. The high-octane snark is always the observed fact and the telling detail, isn't it?
A question though: Is taking money from Madame Hof worse than taking money from, say, R.J. Reynolds, a corporate murderer on a global scale? I don't think so. As usual, the scandal is what's legal.
However, I grant this story would cause a good deal of pearl-clutching and awkwardness for Paul. I await with anticipation the gotcha question to Paul from Tweety or Pumpkinhead.
We. Are. Going. To. Die. We must restore hope in the world. We must bring forth a new way of living that can sustain the world. Or else it is not just us who will die but everyone. What have we got to lose? Go forth and Fight!—Xan
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi
This smear piece is beyond
This smear piece is beyond idiotic. "bringiton" who ever you are, I ask you would you want some implying that because your candidate of choice is being supported by Mr. XYZ that what Mr. XYZ does means your candidate approves? While I find what Mr. Hof does to be beyond detestable, I fail to see where Mr. Hof is denied the right of freedom of choice? Better yet why dont you expend your energy on denouncing the man who owns and runs "The Bunny Ranch" instead of using it as a classless smear against a man who has clearly through walking the walking shown that he doesnt approve...........I see that the rules that apply for other candidates dont apply for Ron Paul.
Give me a break!
KOTOR
Oh, No, A Ron Paul Smear! With Whores!
KOTOR, dude; (tries to keep from snickering; fails.)
Read the piece again. I hold Ron Paul responsible for, per his spokesman, agreeing to accept contributions from prostitutes. If he were a secular person, no problem. But he puts himself out as a devout Christian, and so he cannot accept money that is the product of harlotry - it isn't any more complicated than that. If Ron Paul wants to get right with his God, he needs to issue a statement repudiating the offer. A simple thing, one would expect.
When he does, I'll be sure to write about it.
Maybe something titled:
Whaddaya think?
OMG HE IS THE DEVIL!
I'm not sure I'd vote for Ron, but I am sick of the media trying to get me to hate him. Do you work for fox news? It sounds like it.
And can someone PLEASE explain to me what Jesus has to do with any of this? Last time I checked there was suppose to be a separation of church and state. Keep your god out of my politics.
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How did Jesus get in here? Hmm, let’s see….
Ron Paul talking about his most favorite topic, himself:
It is Ron Paul who proposes that Jesus be with him in the White House, that Jesus guide his decisions as President, and that God’s will (whatever that may be as interpreted by Ron Paul) is a higher authority for law and rights than the man-made law of this nation.
It’s the [Paul/Christ ‘08”] ticket. If you don’t like that idea blame Paul himself, not me for holding him to his own word.
Damn, you caught me out. Yes, it’s true, in my secret life I am the scriptwriter (non-union, of course) for Bill O’Reilly, Hannity, Gibson and the rest of them. But what you really need to be asking is if I am what I appear to be, just another incompetent, shallow, right-wing propagandist hack, or a double-secret ulra-left-wing mole who feeds the unsuspecting Foxist Empire a steady diet of cleverly constructed self-destructive drivel, thus ensuring their demise and thereby the eventual domination of the world by my Atheist Abortionist Dope-Fiend Socialist Empire.
Between irony and sarcasm it does get very, very confusing, doesn’t it, AC(NV)?
One of the great things about The Mighty Corrente Building
is that we get checks from both George Soros and Rupert Murdoch. It's just one of those things that makes the enterprise so immensely profitable....
We. Are. Going. To. Die. We must restore hope in the world. We must bring forth a new way of living that can sustain the world. Or else it is not just us who will die but everyone. What have we got to lose? Go forth and Fight!—Xan
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi
Hannity the Hypocrite
Slam Ron Paul for getting contributions from the Bunny Ranch, but at least Ron Paul has never been to the Bunny Ranch, unlike Sean Hannity, Mr. Moral Christian himself: http://www.bunnyranch.com/phpAlbum/main....