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Oh, come on:

So a bunch of liberal [but not 2L4O] blogger types (Atrios, Yglesias, Aravosis, Oliver Willis, Thom Hartmann, Chris Hayes, Jonathan Singer etc.) met with Jared Bernstein (Biden’s chief economic adviser) at the White House the other day, and I have to say, with the exception of AmericaBlog’s John Aravosis, they sure do sound like a bunch of well-behaved student council members called to the principal’s office.

Being liberals, I suppose they went into “thoughtful listening” mode (apparently Bernstein berated them for not being more supportive of the stimulus bill! and blamed bloggers for not doing a better sales job to the public.

Well, after the 2008 primaries -- and, I grant, some nuances in degrees of culpability, here -- can you blame Bernstein for thinking the blogosphere is an extension of the White House PR operation? I mean, why would he think anything else?

From the various accounts I’ve read, sounds like most of them went into defensive mode, listing examples of what they’d written to support the stimulus instead of pushing back on the silliness of handing bloggers responsiblity for White House communication failures.

Pathetic. I'd like to hear from those who weren't part of the "most of them" group think. Who stood up? Beuller? Beuller? Beuller?

NOTE We're waiting for our invitation! The Chinese buses, I understand, go all the way down to DC, so we can afford to travel! Of course, lambert's an asshole, everybody knows that, but maybe these clowns need to hear from an asshole, instead of from.... grad students. For the good of the country!

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Submitted by BDBlue on

could not possibly carry more water for the WH and Obama than he already does. He is a constant source of amusement at our house. He's particularly fun to read on Obama's approval rating. He's constantly picking the one up point in the tracking poll that otherwise has a long downward trend to claim that Obama is not really dropping in approval. Like one of those global warming deniers who cite the one cold day or big snowstorm to rebut the overall data trend.

It's a shame because I really like Jerome Armstrong.

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Submitted by Historiann on

But the grad students Anglachel writes about were assholes--Nice, Polite, Deferential Assholes--but assholes, nonetheless.

What we need is some kind of magical communications platform that permits us to communicate with each other and the public at large without relying on the access bloggers, the mainstream media, and their domination of broadcast and print news platforms!!!

Any ideas?

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Submitted by DCblogger on


Do you have any idea of how many people are still out of work? It’s not my job to make the White House look good. It’s my job to look out for the interests of working people. I stick up for the White House when they do something right. This wasn’t right.

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Submitted by Ian Welsh on

their people carefully, with the exception of John.

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Submitted by gqmartinez on

His actions during the primary make him a perfect person for the job. His blog was a monstrosity during the last election and he hasn't, as far as I know, ponied up to his abuses of power. As someone who sees things more through the "permanent fundraiser" goggles, I'm not willing to trust Aravosis here. Accountability and ownership of mistakes is important to me.

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Submitted by Aeryl on

That the creative class hates poor people. They just truly could not, and would not, understand that $30 could make or break a poor family.

Submitted by lambert on

Somebody reads my stuff!

Submitted by hipparchia on

i never did decide if they really and truly couldn't see that, or if they were willfully not seeing it, as in the being paid to not understand kind of not seeing.

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Submitted by Ian Welsh on

price is real movement on gay issues. Obama didn't give it to him, and so he no longer supports Obama. I can respect that.

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Submitted by gqmartinez on

Its amazing how generally prescient many of the commenters were. But what strikes me most is not that they were right, but why they are right. They looked at the facts and made conclusions from them. In other words, they had a sound process. Not that I'm big on the primacy of process or anything *wink wink*

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Submitted by madamab on

Most of us are volunteers, so our "jobs" can be whatever the h*ll we want them to be. There are neither requirements, nor standards; there is no Great Blogging Sky Goddess who decrees what is, and isn't, acceptable.

I've always thought that my job was to hold our elected officials to account from the left. In the Bush era, that was easy to do. In 2008, it became almost impossible because of CDS, PDS and OWS (Obama Worshiping Syndrome). But I'm still doing it, as eensy as my "pulpit" may be.

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Submitted by CMike on

It's turtles all the way down:

Every one has to line up and sing hosannas to our leaders. That's the job of intellectuals. Round up the chorus so they all sing praises to your leaders while they march in the parade and tell you how magnificent we are. That's the historic task of intellectuals. Not just here. I mean it's a historic task, let's go back to World War I - far enough away so we can think about it. What did intellectuals do during World War I?

Well, the first thing that happened was ninety-three leading German intellectuals published a manifesto calling on their colleagues and the rest of the world to support Germany in its magnificent aim to bring justice and peace to the world. What did the ... American intellectuals do? Exactly the same thing. In fact they all lauded the magnificence of their own leaders.

There were some exceptions, most of them ended up in jail, on both sides. So in Germany Rosa Luxemburg and Karl Liebknecht objected and were in jail. In England, Bertrand Russell objected. He was in jail. In the United States, Eugene Debs is the leading figure in U.S. labor in the twentieth century and a Socialist presidential candidate, he went to jail for raising mild questions about Woodrow Wilson's war. And others were just repressed, like Randolph Bourne was kicked out of all his journals and so on, because they didn't join the parade and intellectuals are supposed to join the parade.

And they do. Exceptions are so rare you can practically list them. There are exceptions and they're honorable ones. Most of them are in the third world, I can give you quite a few. But in the West, most intellectuals are very loyal and submissive.