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Republican Brownback: Forced pregnancy for rape victims

Extremism in defense of blastocysts is no vice! WaPo:

Sen. Sam Brownback, campaigning for president Saturday before the National Catholic Men's Conference, questioned whether rape victims should get abortions.

"Rape is terrible. Rape is awful. Is it made any better by killing an innocent child? Does it solve the problem for the woman that's been raped?" the Kansas Republican asked at the St. Joseph's Covenant Keepers gathering.

Well, no, it wouldn't be. If that was what was happening you, er, Republican.

Sorry for the vile term of abuse, there.

It just slipped out.

Fuck.

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I wonder how the manner of the conception should even matter.

This is just a political smokescreen, the right has been working, by degrees, to outlaw abortion of all sorts. The fact that this discussion is even being had is hugely distressing for anyone who understands the issue. It indicates that the erosion of the basic right for choice has gone so far as to make this discourse relevant.

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This message is typical, given that the group was the National Catholic Men’s Conference. One pathetic excuse for a man pandering to a whole group of pathetic men. Another great example of "Compasonate Conservatism". I wonder how well that message would be received by NOW?

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When I talk about anti-abortionists I refer to them as pro forced childbirth. Every single time. "Oh, you're pro forced childbirth." It's kind of like rape in that the conception and the birth are quite beyond the mother's dominion.

Repeat, repeat, repeat: Forced pregnancy, Forced childbirth.

Back when South Dakota began to fall off the edge of humanity I submitted the following audio.
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And therefore repeat it. I guess "childbirth" is more accurate (though not all pregancies come to term, even if abortion were 100% prevented) but "pregancy" conveys the woman-as-breeding-animal concept more forcefully. Maybe "forced pregnancy continuation" is the most accurate, but that's quite a mouthful.

Was this your concern?

No authoritarians were tortured in the writing of this post.

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I will endeavor to use the word "forced" in all matters dealing with legislating women's reproductive organs, and by dint of the stated organ control, the women themselves. "Forced Pregnancy Continuation" would probably read alright in Mandarin but I agree: it spazzes off the tongue.

No concern per se on my part, just reiterating the frame regarding these issues, and the best words to use when discussing said issues: Forced. Compelled. Legislated. Compulsory.

With balled-up fists, the Regime Party pummels America.

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Just a thought and it's late so I ain't gonna google a lot of research, but there has to be some fair percentage in this category.

So for Sen. Brokeback or any other male who thinks it's cool to force women to birth the children put into them by violent force, keep handy the following question:

"So you, sir, you are looking forward to raising--feeding, clothing, providing love and guidance and your family name to-- the child of the man who raped your wife?"

Then look incredulous no matter what he answers. Somewhere Michael Dukakis will feel an inexplicable little frisson of joy.

Maybe the thought of wearing the horns of the cuckold will jab their withered little balls where the thought of the coathanger does not seem to engender empathy.

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"so senator, you're happy to help your daughter raise the half-black child of a crackhead AIDS victim when she's raped by one?" make it blunt, ugly, playing on all their worst nightmares and stereotypes. i still recall how in the end, it was "mccain has a half black love child" that sank him in 2000. these are sick, sad men, but i think many of them would back down and sputter away when presented with an unholy marriage of their two biggest hangups, race and gender, that is, shall we say, "in the family."

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I mean you there at 2007-06-12 11:37. Racist, anti-gay, stereotypical crap like this is not worse than but every bit as bad as the demeaning reduce-women-to-mindless-slugs-hauling-uteruses-around attitude we're fighting here.

I reject your frame. I rip it out from the wall, rebuild the studs, install new siding and drywall, paint and install a large bookcase where the frame used to be.

This was not an attempt to get men to expand their horizons of empathy, not fan bigotry. Shoo, now, I said. You do not defeat Rove by becoming Rove.