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Demons among us:

A 27-year-old grocery store worker who police say punched and kicked his 2-year-old son to death on a country road calmly told motorists who stopped at the scene that he had to "get the demons" out of the boy, two witnesses said Monday.

Sergio Casian Aguiar of Turlock told people who urged him to stop late Saturday that the boy was "trash," the witnesses said.

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Submitted by bringiton on

ordered the man to stop. Aguiar turned and shouted "I'm not going to jail", raised his middle finger to the cop and started to turn again to the child. Cop shot once, hit Aguiar in the middle of the forehead.

No taser was available.

The child was so badly beaten that DNA will be required for identification. Complaints of police brutality or excessive force are not expected.

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... a good application for a Taser. However, it's hard not to feel like Dirty Harry in a case like this.

Good riddance, Mr. Aguiar.

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In the latest of a string of atheism-related killing sprees, a man was apprehended in Toledo after shooting and killing the family next door. Robert Sanders told police the family had to die because their Early Stoic philosophy needed tempering with more utilitarianism. He also said he suspected them of frequent logical fallacies.

Betty Smith, a neighbor, said Sanders told her he "didn't hear voices in his head like normal people." Joan Levy, a noted FBI criminologist, said the man fit the agency's well-known atheist criminal profile. "Without hearing God's voice," Levy said, "the atheist simply has no way of knowing right from wrong. As we all know, more religion would have prevented this tragedy."

The atheist community is responding with a national soul-searching that questions its own role in the epidemic. Mary Jones, leader of Atheists United, said today, "Today we acknowledge that atheism is not the predictor of character, the sum total of all decent values, the cure for all societal ills, that we thought it was. We've voted to surrender our tax-exempt status and federal grants so that taxpayers will no longer be forced to support unconstitutional and ineffective social engineering."

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2 Muslim women were not allowed to be visible on tv in the stands behind Gore and Obama the other day--disgusting. -- CNN just said.

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when they threw out ppl wearing peace t-shirts and stuff-- http://www.talkleft.com/story/2005/03/30...

Dubya's team: "...The Secret Service say they weren't involved, it was a Republican volunteer staffer. ..."

(vastleft, everyday there's stuff coming out that is not good--you're sure you're gonna vote for him? what would be the dealbreaker for you?
Is there one at all? I can't believe there hasn't been any straws that broke the camel's back for you.)

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Submitted by vastleft on

What is he going to do that compares to cheerleading the pointless killing of 1 million Iraqis and 4,000 Americans, and singlehandedly enabling the voiding the Geneva Conventions and habeas corpus?

He's certainly lowered the Democratic Party so it competes with the Repubs in truthiness and ruthlessness (at least in terms of internal politics -- Repubs get a free pass from him, as far as I can tell). But he hasn't yet destroyed the Constitution and rained death upon so many. This is what passes for a choice this time around.

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we also escalated existing ones enormously too. (not to mention using nukes in Japan, and making the Cold War a reality, etc)

You think McCain would do what Bush did and start wars and remove our rights? Or you think Obama will actually end our occupation in Iraq? Or restore our rights? (he won't.)

Dems in Congress helped make everything you mention possible--and legal--no one really "singlehandedly" did anything (even if you ignore Congress, Bush was not the driver of that stuff, but the people around him--a point that's very relevant concerning Obama too given his total lack of relevant experience--his advisors are saying we're keeping forces in Iraq, btw, so he won't even stop it--Hillary would have been better, because she stuck to concrete withdrawal plans no matter what--regardless of what her advisors and the Pentagon told her--unlike Obama.)

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that doesn't help him in his new, extreme pandering to white evangelicals and the religious right haters at all. And he already has those who listen to Lowery and all the others whose lifetime of fighting Obama denigrates and dismisses.

And i really wonder when they ok'd the DNC move to Chicago--that's just appalling. The DNC is not just about the Presidency.

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...this guy was pretty obviously mentally disturbed rather than religiously motivated. Read the description and it sounds like a classic case of psychosis -- my guess would be schizophrenia. The guy was at the right age for a first time bout to happen. It's a bit eerie that he cited demons (and toys) because when this incident first happened I remember discussing it with my SO and saying he probably didn't see the child as a child anymore -- the time, location, and what little description there was of bystanders trying to stop him just didn't add up for this to have been anything other than a case of mental illness where he believed the child to be whatever his delusion was.

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... "Religious People Are the Best People" series is to disabuse people of the commonly accepted and reflexively repeated notion that religiosity is a marker for morality.

I make no claim that religion causes these people to do horrible things, nor that it doesn't.

I just observe how often religion is a factor in some of the most horrific crimes, especially in crimes (and supposed non-crimes) where the victims are children and/or women.

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...for the explanation. I saw that today with more "RPATBP posts." The irony is that in cases like this many of the folks that would accept the notion of superior morality for religious people would likely also attribute the crime to either (1) a lack of religion (ranging from non-churchgoing all the way to atheism) or (2) satanism -- or whatever particular dark side of their given dualistic tradition comes to mind.

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Submitted by BDBlue on

I want to say in Texas where a guy blew himself up while making a pipe bomb he was going to use on his ex-girlfriend. It's always nice when problems solve themselves.