Palin/Biden open thread

doing household shit other than removing the appliques from my bathtub, I bought a big bottle of vinegar last night to do the job tonight. I had forgotten about the debate, mostly because at this point the Democrats have pushed me almost to beyond caring, but it still seems that getting old nasty plastic off my bathtub bottom is a better use of my time than listening to these two.

I'll let you know how the vinegar works. If it doesn't, it's on to one of the other Corrente recommended ways.

These debates are pure theater and I've seen enough to know that what the participants say doesn't really matter since the pundits chose the winner based on their predetermined narrative. My view these days is that the reality is probably the opposite of what the pundits and blogosphere say happened. They are also filled with soundbites and since none of the current players are brilliant enough to pack substance into the 30-60s answers the way Hillary was, there is no point in bothering for me. Besides we already know how much stock we can put into any of the candidates' promises.

Also, I'm unemployed these days so the alcohol is saved for very special occassions of which the debate is not one, which would be the only way I could stomach it.

I am going to walk my dog

I think Palin has a big problem, McCain voted for the bail out and then said it was going to ruin the economy, there is just no way she can defend that.

I am going to wait for the Tina Fey satire. Or maybe Cannon fire will write up a report

that's all they're good for--entertainment (and bad entertainment at that)

can be found here.

To keep it balanced, I'm looking forward to Biden's endorsement of McCain and another suggestion that Hillary would have been a better choice. Joe's cerebral-vocal shunt is always great theater.

Between the four of them, I am so proud to be an American.

even watch. Sarah Palin could be unbelievably astute and well informed but the Fourth Estate, the National Inquirer NYT and the tabloid WaPoo, would cut her to sheds including their partisan and abusive blogs on both papers. The cable pundits will of course, talk about her '70's hairstyle, her cracker speech and her calves.

Joe Biden could speak Farsi and they would praise him.

Already know the drill and I have found I am powerless to anything or anyone.

I loathe all of them.

If you want to know who she is, this is gonna be your first chance to form your own impressions without the handy dandy editing snips of people with an agenda. I'm going to watch, because I don't think she is the air head she's being made out to be, and I think there could a surprise or two tonight. I mean, she is a Republican so she isn't a wonk, but I don't think she's a bimbo as maher called her the other night.

She's gonna nail Joe a couple times, and the Obamasphere is going to howl when she does!

over and over and over--rephrased 100 ways, but always the same.

Biden, Aides Focus On Tone of Debate
Prep Sessions Take Gender Factor Into Account -- http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/con...

"... Although Biden spokesman David Wade called the gender factor "overhyped," that hasn't prevented the nominee from seeking advice from an array of prominent women in politics. After their conversation, Biden sent Ferraro a DVD of one of Palin's gubernatorial debates, and Ferraro said she sent the senator a tape of her debate against then-Vice President George H.W. Bush in 1984. ..."

he's gonna have to totally hold back.

he’s gonna have to totally hold back.

In other words, this will be like most every other debate.

*yawn*

seriously, i have no interest in sitting in front of the teevee. but reading comments of other blogjunkies as they watch and crack jokes? one of my few remaining pleasures in politics. also, i have four quarts of today's canning finishing up in the pressure cooker (no moose broth, tho), and they will keep me up a while. so i'm kicking back, getting ready for emails, phone calls, and instamessaging from people who are doing the hard part for me, and enjoying the smells of cooking apple butter and freshly picked chard packed into my jars. it's not heaven, but it's good enough for a thursday.

i hear you LB, about not wanting to trust the boiz. which is what you tube is for; if and when you decide it is truly important for you to know what was said, what it looked like, you can review at your own lesiure. but i doubt anything will be said tonight that is truly 'important.'

"More from the annals of shameless spin . . .

ABC’s Matt Jaffe reports that on Sen. Joe Biden’s plan from Delaware to St. Louis, Obama campaign manager David Plouffe said the following:

"Gov. Palin is one of the best debaters in American politics," Plouffe said, prompting reporters on the plane to burst out laughing. ..." -- http://blogs.abcnews.com/liveblogging/20...

look and see if his forehead or eyebrows move at all--and Palin looks like she got new highlights.

(i still can't get over how horrible Biden's eyejob is--just horrendous)

She's not breathing and speaking too fast. I think she memorized that first response. She spoke far to quickly and in such a monotone that it was difficult to catch what she actually said.

-- that's why we're going to milk them 'til they're dry!

keep hammering McCain and basically ignore Palin. So far when he's been asked to respond to her he goes after McCain instead.

totally fake with his Scranton stuff...only the Obama campaign sees him as a working-class hero.

- These is many more times more educational than the first presidential debate.

- Of course, Biden has the issues on his side, but Palin is awfully impressive, tonight, and superficially very telegenic.

- I'm not so sure it was the best strategy for Biden not to go after Palin.

- Again, I'm very pleased by this debate, so far.

Ifill won't at all.

what is her understanding of the difference between regulation (bad!) and oversight (good!)?

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Just heard Palin bring back up energy, again, completely unprovoked. This is getting very annoying. She sucks at segways.

trying to be a "gotcha".

And, he's right. And, anytime you get to say something with that amount of certainty, you win that question.

the "east coast elite," now apparently, it's the entire eastern seaboard that's to blame for everything.

What a cute slip by Palin. lol!

"clean coal" is a joke. a sick sad joke.

I've said it both ways, myself.

he and Obama won't give us the same benefits--it's not possible unless we are legally married.