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Pacific Northwest Meet-Up

Update: Seems silly for gq and cellocat to come all the way up here. The fab GF and I go down to Seattle/Eastside fairly often during the week, as well as weekends, so if anyone wants to set a date, time, and place, let me know and we'll see if we can make it.

We may be interested in hosting Burning Mad, the Corrente international gathering, next summer if that appeals to you.

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Submitted by gqmartinez on

I can do a day trip (i.e. a weekend since I have to work), but need to plan ahead since I've given up my car now that I'm a city boy. (I still have access but it takes coordination.) This month is filling up and Labor day is busy, but my Sept. weekends after Labor Day are free for now.

I'm opposed to physical activity for this--I don't derive pleasure from it. Physical activity is a chore that I do regularly but grudgingly.

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Submitted by madamab on

I seem to remember organizing a protest in front of Carolyn Maloney's office MONTHS ago, in which East Coast Correntians DID participate.

So, not just a fun get-together, but a political statement as well. Plus, I've met both Libby and A Little Night Musing at PNHP events.

Seems like the East Coasters are ahead of you after all.

8)

Submitted by ohio on

G, if you're going to give the ax to an idea, you need to offer an alternative. For example, "I don't want to shovel, but I'll make mudpies, wash dishes, pick berries, or hold a microphone to catch ghostly voices."

Or, "I don't want to plant trees, but going to the fair and eating cotton candy sounds good." Or, "How about I teach people basic welding?" The idea being you have to offer and not just reject.

P.S. Know much about vacuum distillation? As in, could you build a vacuum still? I have an idea but I'm not sure on my theory. The fabrication I've got covered. Ooo, we could build a pot still.

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Submitted by lambert on

Heck, if we can purify enough of our own water, maybe we won't have to invade Canada! Kidding! I think....

And distilling essential oils and essences from plants for perfume could be a good little business...

Submitted by ohio on

BTW, my neighbor came up with a simple water purifier for people in places like Haiti. His pastor works with the people of a small village and a guy who runs an orphanage in Port au Prince. The villagers have brackish swamp water while the orphans have essentially sewer.

The pastor asked my neighbor for a design, my neighbor came over here to test some ideas. He has one concept I think would work and in the meantime, he came up with a point-of-use system of common materials that would help. Which reminds me--anyone have any contacts for water purity testing or off-the-shelf kits? We'd like to have a baseline against which to test his methods.

(And my distillation idea is for fuel alcohol using a very common and invasive plant species, both fruit and canes.)

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Submitted by coyotecreek on

I thought you were in Ohio?

Submitted by ohio on

We will trade our good looks and delicious moonshine. You will be at our mercy.

Of course it rains enough here that I have to install a zillion-liter tank for our rainwater catchment system. And dig the trenches and lay pipe next week. So we will have water. And moonshine. And good looks.

So no water war here.

How's the healing? Hope you're hanging in there.

Submitted by ohio on

I think I can come up with feedstock from aforementioned invasive plant species (or the must from winemaking operations, which is not only great for this use, but makes excellent compost when it's spent). Since this is for fuel, it doesn't matter what kind of yeast I use as long as I get maximum alcohol.

I want to the either/or pre-heat the feedstock prior to distillation by feeding it through solar vacuum tube collectors (the ones for heating water) or something similar, to lower the overall amount of heat energy required to distill alcohol from the feedstock.

If I use a vacuum distillation process, I can in essence lower the boiling point of the alcohol in the feedstock. The challenge is in pulling the vacuum. One basic way is to use gravity---a weight on a lever pulling a sealed lid up with a solenoid powered by DC current that will fire when the lever has reached a certain point or the requisite temperature is reached. But my ideas are very rough and I'd like to talk with someone who has done some vacuum distillation.

Flipside, some vacuum tubes heat fluid to over 180-degrees F, which might work for my application, provided the sun shines.

My goal here is to design a very simple system of creating fuel alcohol without using excessive amounts of energy.

Or saying to hell with it and starting a craft distillery. But the only vacuum I'll need then is to suck up all the money I'll be making.

Submitted by ohio on

Everest blackberries. They are a scourge. The ripe fruit has a lot of sugar, though. The canes have a lot of water (I don't know about the rest of the cane structure). I think I figured out how to harvest the canes somewhat efficiently. Also, when the canes die back after bearing, they dry out to burn. This is another potential fuel source---if I can pelletize them or press them together easily for max control over the burn rate.

I haven't selected a distillation method yet. I will get licenses for alcohol as fuel and for consumption, but we don't need one for essential oils and vinegars. I'll start small, tho, so I understand the process.

This is why I'm working crush this year. I want to understand the process thoroughly. I feel at a real disadvantage as chemistry is not my strong suit so I'll have to go slow.

Anyhow, finding info on home distilling on the webzes is easy. There's a local guy, Idun Engineering, that may be a good place to start. Google the company and you'll find it.

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Submitted by gqmartinez on

If you want to weed, I'll watch. Won't participate but I'll watch. I don't mind seeing girls with goats or finding ghosts, but I have no interest in building or maintaining anything. I don't derive happiness from such things. I know, bad lazy liberal. So it goes.

The ghost hunting sounds cool. I know there are a bunch of places around for that. Are they good daytime activities? Spending the night in the country scares me ;). I suppose I would stay out late for ghost hunting.

Submitted by ohio on

Or clean up after?

And I won't let the big bad ghosts hurt you. During the day, there's the Lost City of Wellington, which is actually kind of sad, and the Skykomish Hotel in, surprise, Skykomish. At night, there's the GAR cemetary and Oxford pub in Snohomish, the Maltby cemetary, and some other places. Now, as a member of B.O.O. (the Bureau of Occult Occurences---we have badges and everything), it is my sworn duty to point and laugh at anyone who believes in ghosts.

Yes, we've done ghosthunts, but not like Ghosthunters on TV. We're the debunkers and we've done some great bustin'. And we're not crackpots---says so on our t-shirts.

The ghosthunting thing is really fun because we do a lot of local history research before we do one. So I know a bit about the places around here and the stories people tell about such places. And then, of course, everyone has a ghost story and after a cocktail or two, they start telling them. Or not. I love how the least scary things become terrifying at about three in the morning.

Don't worry, I won't make you swing a hammer. It's my reaction to jibber-jabber: I'm done with theory, can we just get on with it? Of course, I could ask my neighbor to bring his forge over and we can make some nails. That's metal and fire and---oh, forget it. You got to swing a hammer for that, too.

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Submitted by lambert on

... here. Perhaps jibber-jabber, but if it inspires the rest of us, then, not.

(I'm thinking of the last part of The Omnivore's Dilemma, where a meal is prepared using all local ingredients. So far as I can tell, no distilled water or herbal essences were included.) Incidentally, "eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants" really does work, moving me up the happiness gradient, and down the weight gradient.

Submitted by ohio on

That's community building and a very good idea. A menu is a plan and I do like me some plans. Especially delicious plans.

And dude, if we get the fucking Wi-Fi working properly, we may able to stream some video. At least some audio, so you can hear us eating our delicious food.

(You do not jibber-jabber, pal. You work. There is a fundamental difference.)

Well, local menu would be preferred mostly because it's more fun and out here, that means all kinds of delicious stuff. But I'd want a protein---probably fish.

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Submitted by coyotecreek on

Cool. I'm changing mine to Arizona! Nice to meet you, Ohio.

Submitted by ohio on

See how I gave you a nickname? You can thank me later.

Submitted by ohio on

Any later and nights get nippy up here.

But it doesn't have to be an overnight. If you just want to meet up for a long lunch, that'll work.

And if you don't want to come up here, then we can meet for a meal elsewhere.

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Submitted by jjmtacoma on

My schedule has been out of control for the better part of a year... I'm not sure if I can commit to anything!

I want to see you all though, so I'll try to come up with something. If darling husband doesn't want to hang out with my imaginary friends, then maybe I can offer a carpool opportunity to GQ.

Submitted by ohio on

Will send you home with a piece of real cake.

We can alwaysbhead south and scoop up g on our way down. What counts is meeting up and exchanging gossip, er, discussing serious issues seriously.

If darling husband is at all interested in strawbale, solar, woodworking, etc., he'll think our house is pretty cool. If he doesn't, well, does he like to carry things? Kidding. He can go to the fair with the kiddies and you can have too much wine.

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Submitted by chicago dyke on

heh, of course you have to stay moving, missy. i can totally tell that about you. ;-)

when i do meet ups, it's usually with food. sorry i'm so damn broke right now, this is a trip i'd take if i could. but i love the cook off idea. you motivated types could go off and build something fabulous and the more lazy progressives could work in the kitchens. showing off with home grown stuff when ever possible. the field workers could come back from building their whatever and judge. then: dancing. surely some of us have musical talent and would play? also: the consumption of adult beverages and hippie lettuce. when i throw a house party, that's my schedule. toss in an afternoon protest or social action for fun. we could go moon a democrat or stage a die in around a republican's office.

Submitted by ohio on

We'd have a house party. It is late, tho so maybe we just have a meal now and next summer we have an event.

Ha!

We can call it "Burning Mad."

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Submitted by lambert on

* * *

Burning Mad, LOL!

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Submitted by chicago dyke on

a greenbarrier. i've got a large space to enclose and they grow in shade. i agree they can be difficult to control.

distillation is probably beyond me, right now. but it's a good thought, thanks. i can see (esp given our seemingly with-it legislature which just passed good home farmer's laws and is poised to pass more soon) selling home grown alcohol based products of one kind or another. booze always sells. as would fuel.

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Submitted by kerril on

from Duvall.
We go to Monroe about twice a week for my son's Tae Kwon Do downtown. Sometimes we head over to the Sailfish Grill for a martini or two and some shrimp. It's nice to know you all are so close by. Monroe people are the friendliest I've met yet. I love it there.

Submitted by ohio on

So we're neighbors. Have you been to the Clay Oven? It's in the historic Red Barn on Highway 2. Okay, so it's the Texaco.

The martinis are excellent and the food is very, very good. It's Monroe weird with cloth napkins and heavy silverware in the same building as a gas station.

So you wanna come have a meal?

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Submitted by cellocat on

By then my insane schedule will have calmed down, and I'd love to meet more Correntians in RL. I'm in the Seattle area, so it's an easy drive. I'm happy to participate in gardening/building/etc, but as a drone who needs instruction; I know nothing about distilleries, etc.

I think talking and working is good; the talk can grease the wheels, at least.

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Submitted by lambert on

Let me throw some thoughts out here, Ohio, now that you've invented this brilliant idea:

Burning Man:

  1. Once a year
  2. One location
  3. In a desert
  4. Leaves nothing behind
  5. Ideologically glibertarian

Therefore Burning Mad should be:

  1. More than once a year (Winter and summer solstices?)
  2. Distributed locations (see exchange following point 3 here)
  3. In gardens or farms
  4. Construct something permanent (and have a fire too)
  5. Ideologically something-or-other (??)

Submitted by ohio on

Local politics based on relationships. Relationships require work and must be built over time. And good relationships have fair and open exchanges.

I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss TV. It's a tool and perhaps your effort in practice accepts any tool as long as it gets the job done. But no tool is an end unto itself.

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Submitted by cellocat on

is small, but real, and good, I think. Potlucks are great; people contribute what they can, and when most of the meal is made on the spot they're even better. If people like the idea of a house party, I'll offer my place in Seattle. Those who don't want to cook can do dishes after. :-)

I like the idea of making something as a group, or together. What about something as small as signs to put in windows? Or t-shirts? I haven't yet gotten a 2L4O shirt, but am feeling that those of us who are not in the cult could do some good by making our presence known more generally.

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Submitted by lambert on

I keep connecting Burning Mad with a heat source, and hence with a cooking fire, perhaps. This again ties into the proposed solstice aspect.

I think another aspect of the contrasts listed above might be not merely destroying but building or teaching.

Submitted by ohio on

We have a grill in a box we could use. And in two weeks Bob the farmer said his corn will be ready. I'd be happy to swing by there if you want to grill some corn, or anything else.

A Saturday or Sunday during the day would work better for us as we have a long drive back. But whatever works for you.

Thanks for the offer.

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Submitted by cellocat on

It's a Saturday, and the weekend is otherwise clear of plans. We've got a grill, so if we decide to bbq, we can do that.

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