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Occupy DC, a dissenting view from a local citizen

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Photo: Protesters blocking the entrance to the Capital Hilton.

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Submitted by lambert on

How many hotel workers had a hard time getting to work?

Even if the poster is a weasel -- "smell," of course, reinforces the meme that the Occupiers should be exterminated becuase they're vermin.

UPDATE I'm over-reacting. Not blocking traffic. Looks pretty innocuous to me. If I were I guest, I'd smile and walk around, or talk to them.

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Submitted by jumpjet on

Inconveniencing people is part of the point of a protest. You disrupt the average person's daily lives and force them to focus on the issues that are important to you.

Was it someone on this site who said that a demonstration of the seriousness of opposition was the willingness to block traffic? If Occupy has reached that point already, it's a sign they're learning quickly.

Submitted by lambert on

Nothing personal (really!!!!) but this:

You disrupt the average person's daily lives and force them to focus on the issues that are important to you.

Is an operational definition of what it means to be a compleat asshole. I mean, if I want to have other people's issues forced on me, I can ride the train in a non-quiet car and listen to assholes with cellphones explain their medical procedures to fifty seething people.

It also leads directly into the idea expressed by the black block that the way to radicalize a crowd is to get the police to attack them. Which can be true, if the crowd knows that's what can happen. But sometimes they don't, and that's like performing an operation without informed consent, which is about as unethical as it gets.

I don't agree with this point of view at all.

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Submitted by jumpjet on

What is a strike, a boycott, a public march if not a disruption of everyday life? These activities block traffic, disrupt the flow of commerce, disconnect the events of the moment from normal activities- which I would argue is precisely the point.

Submitted by lambert on

Good riposte.

I guess the difference for me is disclosure. With a strike, that exists.

I've got in the back of my mind the picture of the friggin black block tossing bottles from the back of the crowd, over the crowd, at the police, so the police charge the front of the crowd and radicalize them. Which is fine except for the babies and crips and old people who were told by the planners it would be peaceful. And would be fine if they knew what they were getting into, with disclosure.

Random inconveniences strike me as not likely to work and self-indulgent to boot.

I grant that when I read my comment I didn't make this clear at all; I hope paragraph 2 in this comment makes it clear why the issue is on my mind and pisses me off.

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Submitted by jumpjet on

The fact is, a protest must involve a transformation- a shift of reality from one state of affairs to another in a way that is noticeable. People must be made aware in a protest, and you have to take them out of their comfort zones to do it, however gently.

Even handing out flyers on the sidewalk is, to a certain extent, disruptive.

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Submitted by DCblogger on

but they are crowding the entrance in a way that would be unpleasant to guests. If there is a fundraiser there and they are doing an action, then ok, but why crowd the door?

In any case, that is the reaction of one local activist, someone, judging by his blog and twitter stream, who is very leftist. So, it seems some of the locals are not impressed.

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https://twitter.com/?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed/Occupy_Oklahoma/statuses/160090240504180736

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Submitted by jumpjet on

He deserves no respect whatsoever from anyone in Chicago. Fuck him, fuck his administration, and fuck anyone in the Chicago liberal establishment who doesn't have the balls to call out his fascist bullshit.

Submitted by MontanaMaven on

Rahm is aggressive. Barack is passive aggressive. Same results.