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ObamaCare Clusterfuck: Obama says health care is a "right"


“[OBAMA:] In the wealthiest nation on Earth [for some], no one should go broke just because they get sick. In the United States, health care is not a privilege for the fortunate few, it is a right.”

So let's look at how that's going to work out:

Obamacare Premiums Report Shows Low Prices For Uninsured With Wide Variation
The figures released by the Department of Health and Human Services represent averages and prices will vary widely by geographic location as well as family size, age, tobacco use* and income. Even the average price of a so-called bronze plan, designed to cover 60 percent of medical expenses not counting monthly premiums, masks big variation. The average price of the cheapest bronze plan in Minnesota is $144 while in Wyoming, comparable coverage costs $425 on average, not including subsides.

(I won't even talk about price because we still don't know what we'll get for the money, and won't until the Exchanges launch, assuming they work.)

How can a "right" vary by geography, family size, age, and income? In CA, the "right" varies down to the county level. Do I have more or less First or Fourth Amendment rights because of where I live? Do I have more free speech because I live in Penobscot County instead of Piscataquis County?

Ludicrous, although -- and by "although" I mean "since" -- he's pandering to a "friendly crowd" of "progressive" supporters.

NOTE * I sure hope "tobacco use" isn't a Trojan horse for a whole series of "nudges," like dietary change. Where's the stopping point?

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Submitted by Splashoil on

I was being facetious on the cost variables. This mess is so absurd I struggle to absorb the mendacity. Just a few miles North over the line my Canadian friends enjoy universal care with uniform standards for all. Obama's Balkan pos insurance scheme leaves everyone stranded in their location or alternately "churning" between various options and wildly different outcomes. Clusterfuck indeed.

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Submitted by beowulf on

For the love of God I hope smokers don't answer yes to tobacco use. The penalty (which can be as much as 50% of standard premium) is NOT covered by tax credit, it has to be paid 100% out of pocket even if you'd otherwise be covered by a full premium support subsidy.

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Submitted by Rainbow Girl on

Yes, and this warning should go out into the RW and be plastered on high way advertising boards.

Have we noticed how very little is mentioned about this massive surcharge for "smokers"? (Ironic, too, because Obama is a smoker or allegedly an ex smoker. But then again he doesn't have to rely on subsidies for insurance marketplace products.)

Then again, penalty of perjury could rear its ugly head if the DHS-IRS-Credit Reporting Agencies-FBI-HHS-Electronic Medical Records Juggernaut finds "evidence" of smoking in one of its tracked trails and then BANG, hapless applicant in jail with fine!

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Submitted by Rainbow Girl on

... which he clearly has -- very publicly -- it may mean that he believes Health Care is a Left (which in ancient philosophical systems is often associated with bad or suspicious or dirty practices.)

Which, mind you, I have no idea how this would relate to what he really means about health care being a RIght -- other than that he always means the opposite. So maybe in his thesaurus "Right" means "Privilege," and all of its connotations (see, e.g., especially, as in Kleptocracies distribute privileges very narrowly to a small class of looters, etc.)

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Submitted by nekobus on

Well, it kind of reminds me how marriages like mine are federally-recognized rights in Massachusetts or Vermont, but not in Arizona or Texas. Seems to me that we as a people have dropped the notion that rights are (or even should be) universal across the US, and universal to all people, regardless of their demographic slices or access to good lawyers. This kind of apparent rhetorical dissonance is neither new, nor inconsistent with how other rights are parceled out by the privileged to the less so. But maybe I'm just a cynical, marginalized gay man.