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ObamaCare Clusterfuck: HillaryCare, the pre-quel

WaPo grabs some tidbits from the Clinton Library document dump:

1) Hillary Clinton said an individual mandate would be too risky

Clinton said in a 1993 meeting with Democratic lawmakers that an individual health insurance mandate would send "shock waves" through the American public.

That, I assume, was what the incredibly slow -- and lethal -- implementation of ObamaCare was designed to avoid.

Clinton later advocated an individual mandate during the 2008 presidential campaign, and the mandate is now part of President Obama's embattled health-care law.

Yes, at least she was honest about that, and about IRS enforcement too, which ObamaCare also adopted. Obama was dishonest about the mandate, and ran "Harry & Louise"-style ads against Clinton attacking her for it.

"That is politically and substantively a much harder sell than the one we've got -- a much harder sell," Clinton said. "Because not only will you be saying that the individual bears the full responsibility; you will be sending shock waves through the currently insured population that if there is no requirement that employers continue to insure, then they, too, may bear the individual responsibility."

And although ObamaCare's slow implementation means that the shock waves are muffled, they are increasing in amplitude.

2) If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor?

Another moment that harkens to the current controversy over Obamacare: An adviser ("Todd") in January 1994 worried in a memo that the administration was over-promising on the health-care plan that Hillary Clinton was spear-heading.

This, of course, sounds a lot like the whole controversy over "If you like your health care plan, you can keep it" -- an Obama administration and Democratic talking point that Politifact recently named its 2013 "Lie of the Year."

Apparently, though, it's not the lie of the year, but the lie of the decade!

And this: "Isn't the whole thrust of the plan to steer [today, we say "nudge"] people toward cheaper, HMO-style providers?" And today, I believe we call HMOs ACOs.

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The political class has been gaming out ObamaCare for years, obviously. It looks like Obama brought three things to the table: (1) the very, very slow "frogs in the pot" implementation, and (2) the destruction of the left, so single payer was never a serious option, and (3) the capture and chloroforming of the creative class, who implemented so much of it.

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If she runs--I am still not convinced that she will from the reporting that I hear--I truly believe that it depends on two issues: (1) whether the ACA is considered a fiasco by the end of 2014, and (2) the outcome of the midterm elections (which to some extent, will be at least a partial referendum of the ACA.

Here's the link to wage garnishment that is being bandied about:

Would Clinton Garnish Wages to Enforce Health Plan?

Presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton was pressed to the brink Sunday on how she’ll enforce her universal health insurance proposal. She didn’t answer directly, but one option she didn’t rule out: Garnishing the wages of those who could afford to buy health insurance but wouldn’t do so, according to ABC.

After being asked about garnishing three times by George Stephanopoulos on ABC’s “This Week,” she said “George, we will have an enforcement mechanism, whether it’s that or it’s some other mechanism through the tax system or automatic enrollments.”

I won't have time to comment, but I'll post a couple of videos from the past debates which are rather interesting.

One is as I remembered it--PBO called for a "mandate" on parents to buy them insurance, and FS Clinton called for the universal mandate.

Again, more of less -- "Tweedledum and Tweedledee!"

;-)

Oh, and since FP Clinton prodded the Democratic Senators to enthusiastically support the ACA over the next months, FS Clinton has been out in support of it (with fixes--unspecified, of course).

I won't have time to comment, but I'll post a couple of brief video clips from the 2008 debate, which are rather interesting.

One is as I remembered it--PBO called for a "mandate" on parents to buy health insurance for their children, and FS Clinton called for the universal mandate.

Again, more or less -- "Tweedledum and Tweedledee!"

;-)

Oh, and since FP Clinton prodded the Democratic Senators to enthusiastically support the ACA over the next months, FS Clinton has been out in support of it (with fixes--unspecified, of course).

I still believe that whoever the Dem Candidate is, they need to disavow the ACA. But I understand that it will probably never happen.