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ObamaCare Clusterfuck: 50% of Florida's known ObamaCare sign-ups are former Obama campaign operatives

To be fair, there are only two. But still! Miami Herald/KHN:

Obamacare Enrollees Become Urban Legend
Nearly two weeks after the federal government launched the online Health Insurance Marketplace at healthcare.gov, individuals who have successfully used the choked-up website to enroll for a subsidized health insurance plan have reached a status akin to urban legend: Everyone has heard of them, but very few people have actually met one.

The Miami Herald searched high and low for individuals who completed enrollment for a subsidized health plan through the marketplace, also called an exchange, launched by the federal government on Oct. 1 in 36 states, including Florida.

The Herald solicited readers for stories of enrollees online and in the newspaper, and received a fair number of responses reflecting various degrees of success with healthcare.gov, which has been plagued by technical problems that federal officials attribute to an overwhelming number of people trying to access the website at once. ....

Florida media and nonprofit groups have reported at least two successes in detail. Florida CHAIN, a statewide consumer health advocacy group, has highlighted the story of Vincent Mutia, a 24-year-old political science student at the University of Central Florida.

Now, when I read "political science," a little bell of paranoia and cyncism went Ding! So I looked up Vincent Mutia's Linked-In profile. Here is it is:

Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha! I don't know what I find most annoying about this:

1.) That neither the Miami Herald nor KHN bothered to check who Vincent Mutia was;

2.) The arrogance and cynicism that permeates the Obama campain organization, whose operatives don't even bother to do their shameless PR work at arm's length, and also

3.) Assume that the rest of us are so stupid that we won't bother to check what they tell us.

I mean, seriously. Couldn't these clowns plant a simple heartwarming human interest story, hopefully with kittens? Do I have to have all the ideas around here? Can't anybody here play this game?

Two down, 7 million to go!

UPDATE As I keep saying, the ObamaCare rollout is a political campaign. However, even I wasn't cynical enough to imagine it would be a poorly organized, badly run campaign. And wasn't Moms Rising supposed to handle those kittens?

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Submitted by lambert on

It makes you wonder how on earth these guys won two Presidential elections. Seriously.

First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win. -- Mahatma Gandhi

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Submitted by Richard Lyon on

A good part of the credit for that accomplishment goes to the sophisticated use of the OFA shock troops on the internet. It continues to be an active operation. The Obama campaign organization is not incompetent. It is just dishonest.

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Submitted by Alexa on

united or happier.

Heard him being interviewed on Julie Mason's "The Press Pool."

Does Rich EVER read a blog (other than his own--if he has one, LOL!)?

Did he miss the "explosion" in (some parts of) the progressive blogosphere over the possible passage of a "Grand Bargain," back in the Spring and early Summer months?

Or the very negative "ACA" stories generated over the summer months?

But he is correct about one thing--right now in the midst of the Grand Bargain negotiations, parts of the progressive community are so "muted" that one can just about "hear a pin drop."

I can't figure out if bloggers don't care, or don't know "what is at stake." Dunno.

Of course, with "establishment Dem opinion shapers" like Rich spreading somewhat exaggerated talking points about "how happy the Dem Base is," I guess that it's to be expected.

{Sigh . . . }

Alexa

“If a dog won’t come to you after having looked you in the face, you should go home and examine your conscience.” -- Woodrow Wilson

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Submitted by Dromaius on

You know, I get all my news from the Cheeto. Obamacare web glitches? Yeah, there were a few on the first and second day. The site was overwhelmed with people needing insurance! But my orange blog hasn't said anything since, so I assume it's all fine. I do know that the Republicans are trying to destroy access to good healthcare. Wow are they evil!

So, maybe, like me, Frank Rich gets all of his Newz from Cheetoville? ;-). We are happy over there, really we are! Very united!

Um snark, except I DO think the Republicans are evil....about as evil as trying to sneak us skinny HMO plans and calling them insurance.

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Submitted by Alexa on

And to think that, at one time, I liked ol' Frank quite a bit.

This "Lesseer Of Two Evilism"--"about as evil as trying to sneak us skinny HMO plans and calling them insurance"-is really beginning to "get old."

;-)

Alexa

“If a dog won’t come to you after having looked you in the face, you should go home and examine your conscience.” -- Woodrow Wilson

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Submitted by marxmarv on

Just occurred to me that the shutdown/default might be an object lesson in TINA and a reminder to stay on the reservation, or could easily be turned into such.

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Submitted by Alexa on

Hey, marxmarv, I'm truly not certain what you mean.

But if I understand your comment, I suppose we'll have to "agree to disagree."

Check out some of this past weeks' Sunday talk shows (Oct 13th), if you have a chance.

It was mind-boggling, if not bordering on surreal, with all the talk of cutting entitlements (you know--savings from long term budget negotiations) that was bounced around.

Instead of choosing between two corporatist candidates, I'm very hopeful that a candidate will emerge who will get us out of endless war, and/or military engagements world-wide, and not only protect, but actually bolster the social safety net.

As a soon-to-be federal DOD retiree, I am sympathetic to furloughs because I've personally been through many furloughs and RIFs.

But the budget cuts (to DOD) desperately need to be made. Nothing will change on the "home front" is we continue to finance endless military adventurism.

[Sorry--off my soapbox.]

Guess I believe that the LOTE theory--or continuing to vote for Third Way/No Labels/DLC/corporatist Dems is what got us here in the first place. As for me--no can do.

And if I totally misunderstood what you mean by "TINA"--please, disregard my entire comment, LOL!

;-)

Alexa

“If a dog won’t come to you after having looked you in the face, you should go home and examine your conscience.” -- Woodrow Wilson

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Submitted by Rainbow Girl on

Oh, man! [Falling off chair from laughing/crying too hard.]

Great Post title, because I was getting all excited to read about, say, 1,000 people signed up -- meanwhile it's 50% of TWO (2) individuals, 50% of whom is OFA!

Super catch.

I guess they had to make up for the quick disintegration of that Chad guy from Georgia, so enter Vincent Mutia! I wonder if Katheleen Sebelius actually had him on video-conference making sure he got through the enrollment and bought .... something.

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Submitted by Alexa on

Ditto, RG.

I have gotten to where (on some blogs that have "bios") I check for "OFA credentials" when I see "glowing reviews" of this Administration.

I suspect that many of these folks may even be "paid" shills (although I cannot prove it--it's just a strong suspicion, LOL!).

Otherwise, nothing makes sense, considering the "current negotiations for a Grand Bargain!"

Alexa

“If a dog won’t come to you after having looked you in the face, you should go home and examine your conscience.” -- Woodrow Wilson

[Avatar Photo Credit: Conflagrate, jurvetson's photostream, flickr]

Submitted by lambert on

... and I'll try to get to them later. But sheesh! Obots! Please do better!

First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win. -- Mahatma Gandhi

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Submitted by Dromaius on

Our Seattle Times Health Care Blog -- which is basically the propaganda arm of the WAPlanFinder (look at them and tell me I'm wrong) -- said that 25,000 people have signed up for plans in Washington. Enrollments have TRIPLED!!!!

But if you read further, it turns out that 22,000 of them are Medicaid enrollees and only 3000 have enrolled in "qualified plans" on the Exchange. Our state needs about 130,000 enrollments. At this rate, we'll have about 14% of the needed enrollments by the end of the year.

In closing "Wahhoooo, a raging success!" LOL.

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Submitted by Rainbow Girl on

The Marketplace Exchanges are the Secret Portals to Medicaid.

Circles of Purgatory + Hell, and such.

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Submitted by Alexa on

if it winds up that by far the bulk of new Health Exchange enrollees are signed up to participate in Medicaid--how long do you suppose it will be before the entire ACA Health Exchange system "goes down in flames?"

Or, is it possible that an enrollment which leans very heavily toward Medicaid can still offset the Health Exchange policy/premiums due to the expanded "MERP" (Medicare Estate Recovery Program)?

Don't misunderstand my question--I am definitely not wishing a negative outcome for any of these (innocent) people. From where I stand, they are certainly not at fault for this fiasco.

But it is hard to imagine that unless the ACA produces fairly "even results" in regards to "premium costs and premium spread," that the program will be able to remain afloat for very long.

Alexa

“If a dog won’t come to you after having looked you in the face, you should go home and examine your conscience.” -- Woodrow Wilson

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Submitted by Rainbow Girl on

I think that The More To Medicaid The Merrier for the Insurance Companies -- because they basically run Medicaid as a Gulag Sub-HMO and it costs them very little (what with us, taxpayers, kicking in a lot of their take).

I think that the ObamaCare Train got seriously derailed by the second piece of the Supreme Court's opinion -- allowing states to opt-out of the Medicaid expansion. I don't think Plan A (from Liz Fowler's $$ perspective) involved an ObamaCare heavily occupied by non-Medicaid people buying private policies on the exchanges. Speculating wildly I imagine the Insurance Companies who bit the bullet and agreed to offer policies through Obama's marketplaces are jumping for joy at the extremely low numbers of enrollees. Even though they seem to have "designed their products" to minimize payouts/coverage to the bare miniscule minimu, there's always better from their perspective, which is to bear ZERO risk, i.e., not to have to insure even such hapless buyers of junk products.
My .02.

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Submitted by Dromaius on

Yeah the private co's only do administration for Medicaid as I understand it, so the new enrollees are a coup maybe....although some private insurers are dropping Medicaid because they're losing money, so it's hard to say.

But yeah, without the healthy enrollees, the Exchange plans will implode. If word gets out about their quality, I don't see them getting the healthy group who aren't insured, at least not this year. Those folks will simply get better about managing their tax withholding.

When the pre-existing condition bridge plan was implemented, enrollment was about 30% of projected, and I suspect those people were sick. The reason for not enrolling? Cost. I will be entirely surprised to see more than 50% of projected numbers this year.

A dear friend of mine is an Obamabot, but also a state retiree and has a long list of serious medical conditions. She was all excited about how she could drop her state insurance and save a skad of money with an Obamacare plan. So I wrote her, begging her to wait at least a year and let all of us to be guinea pigs for her. As it turns out, in recent days her hospital wrote letters to past patients, informing them that they are not providers on any of the Exchange plans (except one local HMO). Suddenly, the Exchange lost an Obamabot enrollee! This is anecdotal information, but I have to believe that states' projections are based on polling, math formulas, and pulling info out of their hats! Maybe the part of the projection based on polling is slipping fast as people gain the information from their doctors and hospitals that their usually nanny-state Democratic government refuses to tell them..

I want the inferior-quality Exchange plans to fail badly. But it scares me to think what will fill the vaccuum that will be left behind.....

Submitted by hipparchia on

the private co's only do administration for Medicaid as I understand it

the privatization of medicaid is complex, and mostly happening under the radar. states have a lot of leeway in hpw they provide medicaid, and there's not much in the way of centralized federl govt recording of what the states are doing, but there's a fair amount of states just plain buying private insurance from insurance companies and turning it all over to them, retainiing just a fig leaf of "public" control."