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Obama convention speech open thread

I suppose I might as well put this up now. just so that people have a chance to move small, throw-able objects away from their computers and teebees.

Will Obama wear pink pumps, do you think? [Delay due to iffy WiFi on bus I was traveling.]

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Submitted by cg.eye on

through the Cat Food Commission, was on the table, but otherwise he did better than Obama, frankly, had a right to ask. Mr. Clinton hit one for the team, as expected.

As for the others, I was tag-team watching the prime time coverage with The Beverly Hillbillies, so I damn near expected one of the speakers to bust out with Coal Miner's Daughter. Their reminisces of poverty only made me more skeptical of their abilities to resist a bribe or a lobbyist. I'd believe them a lot more if they concretely, *in their fucking platform*, made commitments to the poor first, then the middle class, instead of muting the poor except when they need them for an audience photo-op. (And that poor lady holding up her Medicare card -- never listen to a damn cameraman enabling a thousand identity thieves with one shot.)

Your pink-pump mention, however? Unworthy of you. There are a lot of things to fault the President and First Lady on, on principle and based on trivialities, so borderline sissy-baiting's not needed.

Submitted by lambert on

Not what I meant, though I've used that club in the past.

I see the pink as blood, as the result of walking through a blood mist to get to the platform.

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Submitted by par4 on

wasted any time watching either of the criminal conventions. I also turn off any 'news' coverage of them.

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Submitted by okanogen on

Apparently, finding himself not likeable enough, Obama tossed his veep under the bus and went with Clinton. Biden? Biden who? Oh, that guy.

Clinton, the guy who said Obama would have been carrying his bags a few years ago.

“The excitement of ‘hope’ and ‘change’ aren’t what they used to be,” said Hank Sheinkopf, a Democratic political consultant who worked for Mr. Clinton. “Bill Clinton represents the America Barack Obama needs to get back.”

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He likes to use the Zulu greeting sawubona (“I see you”) when he is traveling in parts of southern Africa, and he often received the response ngikhona (“I am here”). It is that sort of personal connection that helped him lure rural and working-class voters back to the Democratic Party in 1992, and it is that touch that many political analysts say Mr. Obama lacks, a perceived gap that Mr. Clinton said he had tried to help with.

Submitted by MontanaMaven on

Though I disagree with him a lot, he is always fun and very smart. Can do the populist thing as good as any. And went off script at the 2008 convention. was a big hit.

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Submitted by letsgetitdone on

and doing a great job. Unfortunately, however, he had to follow Jennifer Granholm, who channeled Ann Richards and gave on hell of stem winder on how many jobs Obama saved in various states when he bailed out the auto industry.

Now we've got Charlie Christ!, telling us how and why the Republicans left him.

Submitted by MontanaMaven on

SCreamed and yelled. Then i also saw her with no sound. She then really looked crazy.

Submitted by lambert on

Looking directly into the camera with a dreadful, unblinking, prehensile sincerity.

The peroration was dreadful, but did include the word "forward."

Steve Israel in the booth being interviewed. He makes my skin crawl.

Submitted by lambert on

"Courtesy of DNCC."

I haven't heard convention speeches in a long time because I didn't listen in 2008 (except to Sarah Palin, because how could one not?)

The language is completely horrible. Deeply fake. Recursive bullshit.

Submitted by YesMaybe on

and was greeted by Biden accusing the republicans of claiming the US is in decline and betting against the american people. Pretty hilarious.

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Submitted by wanderindiana on

What is different this time around is there is a hired gun doing the pandering to a different group of people viewed by the Establishment as essential to re-election.

In 2008, Obama himself pandered to the Netroots and youth vote. This year, Bill Clinton is pandering to his base, the moderates and small business class.

They meant to marginalize the Democratic wing of the Democratic Party after the 2008 election, and their direction this year says they believe they were successful. There is no need to deliver Hopey Changey kool-aid to you and me this year. We don't matter in the grand re-election plan; either that, or they believe the votes will default because of fear of a Romney-Ryan world.

I will cast my vote for Dr. Jill Stein or some other suitable alternative.

Submitted by MontanaMaven on

And ask my conservative friends to vote Gary Johnson.

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Submitted by coyotecreek on

...for whom I actively volunteered. I held my nose with Gore and Kerry. And then Obama did his number on HRC...a candidate (woman!) who was the most intellectually gifted candidate to run for POTUS in my lifetime. (Yes, I'm sure she and I would have disagreed with some of her policies/war decisions.)

I want/wanted a female POTUS in my lifetime. HRC was the only one who could possibly fulfill that promise to me. And Obamney and Friends trashed her.

I was disturbed at WJC's speech. Because I saw a man - a man I once respected - pander and lie for another man....a man who trashed his wife - yet WJC still needs the spotlight for his own glorification and was willing to pander to this creep. Yes, I know it's "politics" - but for me its personal.

I was actively sick to my stomach when Obamney and WJC hugged on stage. Shame on you, Big Dawg.

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Submitted by tom allen on

Well that was ... meh. (Talking only about Obama's rhetoric here, not the substance.) A pretty standard stump speech. Did he write it the night before or something?

Submitted by MontanaMaven on

But not a hawk like Hilary. But better than the cold calculating Barack. Jill stein and Cheri Honkala are way cooler. Jill is a doctor and can go head to head intellectually with Hilary or Barack. Honkala is a poverty advocate. What's not to like?

Submitted by YesMaybe on

I thought it was very good overall. I think his fair share/same rules stuff is too cliche to be used twice word-for-word. But other than that it seemed like a very well-crafted speech... assuming you don't put 2 (e.g. fracking, but not referred to by name) and 2 (e.g. pollution and global warming) together and don't know anything about the reality of his administration.

Certainly better than Romney, Ryan and Biden (though I only caught part of Biden's, I think I saw enough). Not saying much, I know.

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Submitted by letsgetitdone on

There were no commitments in the speech. Nothing for us to judge what he is likely to do. It had its moments, but was just BS!

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Submitted by wuming on

...is that so many people are so pumped up by the speech, and actually think Obama will deliver on his promises. He won't, of course. The fix has always been in-- I knew it the moment that Obama appointed that hack Larry Summers to the National Economic Council.

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Submitted by letsgetitdone on

when he had the threat of defeat in front of him; why would he do so after he is re-elected. I think we know who Obama is and what he wants his legacy to be. Many, including me, may believe that Romney/Ryan would be worse. But that doesn't mean we ought to vote for Obama. It's another tough election for those of us who are looking for justice!

Submitted by jawbone on

programs facing bad changes....

Obama's speech gave me chills, the bad kind, when he spoke about his changes and improvements for Medicare (uh oh!) and Simpson-Bowles (which he referred to as his "deficit committee" iirc.).

Big alarm bells clanged for me. Big, make that huge, alarms, painted bright red, with huge clangers.

What was so scary to me is that this speech was so similar to his '08 acceptance speech: He uses the right phrases, seems to support the good Democratic Party principles, pushes people's buttons. But, buried within are little weasel terms, unspelled out threats to those same Democratic principles. He even --OMG!!!-- mentioned FDR!!!! Which he so seldom ever does.

I so cannot trust Obama. Michelle, do you have any influence over this guy? Or do you share his corporatist bent? You both talk such a very good game, but...the actions are so missing.