Bullshit from Pelosi: "Single payer now can be disruptive to Medicare"
Crooks and Liars has the audio from Nancy Pelosi's conference call with some bloggers on the House health care bill.
Kudos to Chris Bowers for asking about the Kucinich amendment.
Chris' question was whether the Kucinich amendment was in the bill.
Short answer: No.
Longer answer: The Republicans supported it, and "this is probably one of those issues that they would like to use to take down the bill."
I'm really and truly happy whenever Democrats reject bipartisanshit, but golly gee whillikers. I can see why there seems to be no love lost between Kucinich and Pelosi [Kucinich has been critical of her move on the Weiner amendment].
Then there's this on the Weiner amendment...
Ryan Grimm's [HuffPo] question on the Weiner amendment [and I paraphrase a bit]: "... a vote on the Weiner amendment to make the case that people think this is a government takeover, so let's vote on the government takeover, and then move on to the real bill."
Gah. That's bad enough, but then there's Nancy Pelosi's answer...
Pelosi: "We can't take something to the floor that isn't scored, and we're trying to figure out how to score single payer. I told the caucus I've been for single payer for 30 years. When I first started out being for single payer, Medicare was 14 years old. [...] Now it's become such a formidable part of the life of our seniors, so single payer now can be disruptive to Medicare. [...] People come and say "We want single payer' and we say "well, you understand what this does to Medicare? [...] So we have to have a score for that, in order to have a score for that, we have to have a real understanding about what it is that is being put forth."
Single payer would be disruptive to Medicare, but experimenting on these same old folks with unproven concepts like accountable care organizations, and with concepts that have been tried but shown to be lackluster at best, like pay for performance, or deciding based on questionable research that less care is more?
Those are all going to strengthen Medicare, not disrupt it.