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As a blogger the oddity of it all is just so bizarre I’ve got to look. This is a little beyond my scope. BUT!! If any MIAKA out there wants to give an interview . . . Come on, I just got used to men holding hands and kissing. What the fuck is going on?

I need a time out. Somebody stop the world I need to get off. I’m not trying to trip. Just somebody tell me what’s going on? Why take over AKA’s tradition? Why not start your own Greek organization? Is there some deeper meaning? Is there some need for recognition or fulfillment that this serves that can’t be met in any other way? Why destroy something that doesn’t belong to you? Tell me cause I don’t get it. Please, somebody help me understand. So all of my brethren that are out there – let a brother know what’s going on. Video

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Submitted by lambert on

I've often thought that with cameras becoming ubiquitous and surveillance everywhere, that masks should become de rigeur. Unfortunately, we'd have to put them on all at once, or masking would, paradoxically, make the masked person more conspicuous, not less.

No authoritarians were tortured in the writing of this post.

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The masks are symbolic and representative of probate shows that most historically African-American fraternity and sorority chapters participate in.

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provacative. After Mardi Gras, I was watching V for Vendetta not the lizzard movie, and Eyes wide shut. I think the masked ball should make a return. They got that part right.

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Submitted by vastleft on

(Before I saw this post, I would have thought my subject line was redundant.)

Are these men actually sneaking into women's groups, or are they running their own independent pseudo-chapters?

How are they "destroying" something?

www.vastleft.com

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Submitted by chicago dyke on

ha! and ha ha. assuming it's real, sounds to me like someone is finally mocking the pompous greek communties at HBC environments.

the whole concept of the greek system offends me. boilerplate, i rushed, and got accepted, by a sorority when i was an undergraduate. i didn't pledge because they took me, and not my best friend. i assume it was because she was a tad heavier than was acceptable.

black folks need to stop imitating the old white plantation system. that's basically what frats and sororities are all about. light skinned, thin, pretty, fecund, "proper" young women aligned with the "leadership" class of black men, who just happen to be already more likely to come from a black middle class that has more or less walked away from the black working class these days.

you know what this makes me think of? the NAACP. i was looking at the website, trying to find interesting news, and all i could find was "sponsorship" opportunties and reports about self-congratulatory conferences and conventions in which TV stars were given awards.

i consider myself a member, and i accuse myself along with others in the black leadership class. too many of us have been coopted, distracted, and otherwise embraced "safe" civic action in place of what really needs to take place.

there is nothing "sacred" about sorority or fraternity tradition. dressing in colored clothes, running around at night, spanking each other's bottoms...whatever. if a bunch of people, gay or otherwise, want to mock the greek system, i say good on them.

and in the comments, some of the readers were asking if this is even "real," or just some rumor that has gotten out of control. there is also the point that frats aren't exactly welcoming of gays, so in that sense if this is real, it seems an obvious response.

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Why all the anger? Is there more to your friend being rejected than you are admitting? As a woman who is "heavier" and a part of a sorority I can honestly say no one made me step on a scale or held a paper bag up to my face. Whatever the criteria for "getting in" your “friend” didn't make the cut. Maybe she didn’t do enough community service? Maybe her essay stunk? Don't hate because of that.
As for the MIAKA's…they are mocking years of tradition and it is not cute. What the sororities and fraternities mean to those that do become a part of them can not be described in words and for someone to try to take that away is disrespectful and hurtful.

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You're bitter. Get over it already. I'm a big girl and alot of my sorors are heavy as well. Every chapter doesn't operate the same. Maybe if you had finished the process you would have been one of the ladies to help your chapter but oh well we all have a choice. It's not the organizations fault that you feel this way but the people that you dealt with and your own insecurities. Grow up baby girl and let this go. This too shall pass. As far as the MIAKA's, their imitators just like the Delta's!

SKEEEEEEEEEEE-WEEEEEE

Shug Avery #14
Beta Pi
Spring '99

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I've found the comments to be spewed with ignorance and generalizations. Here is a point of clarification particularly to the comments written by "Chicago..." which illustrates that you know very little about Greek life despite the fact that you rushed. Firstly, MIAKAs are REAL and are an auxiliary group. There are several of these including but not confined to: KAPPA Sweethearts and Omega Pearls. Some chapters of Greek Organizations, much to my disagreement, actually "pledge" these "auxiliary groups bearing the same colors as their own legit Greek Lettered Organizations. Other organizations just use persons in auxiliary groups as extra help for program planning and program facilitation. All of these behaviors are against the National Organization's jurisdiction. Therefore, in my humble opinion, these actions tend to do a disservice to the founding principles of the "Divine Nine Greek Organizations." Secondly, the people who abuse and demean the name and founding principals of their organizations are not different than those that demean the principals taught to them by their parents/family members/religions -- this is a manifestation of the lack of integrity that is universal and is not only portrayed in Greek life, but found any and every where. Furthermore, some people honestly join these organizations for the wrong reasons! Some people are attracted to the stereotypes associated with the organization "being pretty/cute" instead of the founding principals. Some are attracted to these organizations so that they can "network" and not because of the founding principals. Some people join these organizations because they are "legacies" and if every man or woman in their family belonged to the organization they feel that they should too -- WRONG! Therefore, these people do not necessarily attend to do the public service work outlined in the founding principles. My ultimate point in saying this is that some of the Divine Nine Greek Organizations are phenomenal and these organization's name should not be belittled due to the actions done by a few bad seeds -- chapters are chapter members that are out of order. Although there are downsides to Greek life, just as there are downsides to the totality of human existence, those people that honor and follow the principles and guidelines of their organizations do phenomenal public service work that might not otherwise be done -- some organizations do more than others and therefore have a better reputation than others. Thus, I believe it is dangerous to group all Greek Lettered Organizations or all Diving Nine Greek Organizations together. Although entwined, each organization has a separate history, separate vows and oaths, separate structures and platforms, separate membership bodies, separate goals, and separate values. These values extend far beyond the stereotypes of wearing certain colors, throwing parties, and ect. These values including, building hospitals on other countries, lobbying for human rights, doing community service in impoverished neighborhoods, and ect. I'm finished here.

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I think Chi-Dyke is a hater and a liar. For one, black folks don't rush, that's what white fraternities an soroities do. If you would have researched black fratenities and sororities you would have found out that they were created to help blacks graduate from college. The white man slave plantation system crap you mentioned was present way before greek organizations were created and will be here well after. Hm? Did you know those facts before you "rushed"? It seems to me that if that so called sorority would have accepted your friend you would be wearing those letters today. What further exposes your ignorance is the fact that you actually though that the women at that specific university and sorority represents the whole sorority as a whole. That's as stupid as saying that all blacks steal and all white folks can't jump.Now,
I can say that greeks have lost their way a little bit and have gotten away from the essence of their existance and service to the community but how far has those aboninations known as "miaka's" have strayed from the Bible and the teachings of my GOD!

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vastleft - I believe that they are running a shadow op. They are destroying the integrity of the brand and the organization , the colors, the letter the paraphenalia, the history, the secrets. Is it real - I don't know.

CD - black folks need to stop imitating the old white plantation system. that’s basically what frats and sororities are all about. light skinned, thin, pretty, fecund, “proper” young women aligned with the “leadership” class of black men, who just happen to be already more likely to come from a black middle class that has more or less walked away from the black working class these days.

You know I find the whole "Black Greek" thing absolutely absurd. I just don't know how this is going to play out. You and I both know that tis is going to be an issue "in house." It just seems so hostile.

We were ready for a gay frat. We may have been ready for a gay sorority (shiver). But damn, talk about symbolic appropriation. You notice they picked the AKAs and not the Deltas or Sigma Gamma Rho, OR the Zetas - they would have gotten their ass beat.

All I'm sayng is is this really the best way to come out to the communuity? Or is it the point to simply say fuck you. I'm telling you I feel conterintel all over this. You have Black women and Black homosexuals going at each other. It's a cat fight.

Thank god they weren't in the middle of something important like mobilizing the vote where the majority of young black college age voters are.

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I really wish people would do more research on African-American fraternities and sororities before they attempt to show thier ignorance of the organizations by bad-mouthing them. Especially since a vast majority or our famous deceased and living African-American leaders are members of them: Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. (Alpha Phi Alpha), Bill Cosby (Omega Psi Phi), Phylicia Rashad (Alpha Kappa Alpha), Maya Angelou (Delta Sigma Theta), Johnny Cochran (Kappa Alpha Psi), and I could go on for days!

These are individuals that are civil rights leaders in their on right as they have paved the road for countless African-Americans to follow in their footsteps. These are positive, prominent, educated African-Americans that I look up to and am proud of their accomplishments. So for a person to say that "we need to stop imitating the old plantation system" shows just how truly ignorant you are about the inception and existence of these greek-lettered organizations.

How dare you speak ill will towards organizations that have been the basis for African-American collegiate scholastics and commraderie as well as at the forefront of civil right issues such as segregation, the right to vote and equality amongst all people. To say that these gentlemen choose AKA because the other organizations wouldn't stand for it again, adds to your ignorance. This MIAKA organization is the topic of this particular website, which means you are ignorant to all of the other auxillary groups. AKA is not the only sorority that has male auxillary group followers. EVERY sorority has them, again, MIAKA's are specifically the topic of this site. Again, please research your suggestions and comments prior to posting them. We have enough discrimination from people outside our race, lets not divide ourselves by turning on each other within our own race. Education brings about the loss of ignorance, and unless you study and take the extra step to research information before you ignorantly speak on them, your education has been in vain.

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As a member of a BlackGreekLetterOrganization as well as the gay community I felt that I must comment on this topic. First I understand where both arguments being made are coming from the fact is yes these organizations were created during civil rights movement to help uplift the African American Community through public service and scholarship but, they have moved so far away from their founding purpose. I agree that the founders of these organizations never intended for men to be in these organization but, they never wanted to belittle their own meaning other African Americans in the way that BGLO's have grown popular for during these modern times. The fact of the matter is BGLO's were created b/c WGLO's wouldn't include African Americans, ironically BGLO's excluded and humilate blacks especially prospects more than WGLO's . It's funny to me how you said that before badmouthing greek letter organizaion people should know their history but, i'm not sure if you know yours...Did You Know? Secret Societies orginated in Africa so, pretty much we should be African Letter Organizations but, hey if the white people say it greek than thats right i guess it...ha....Did You Know? To call your self a BLACK GREEK is an oxymoron but, maybe i'm only person who knows the truth. I could really talk about this for days.....Don't attack people for spitting their opinion on BGLOs because this forum is about men in female organization which isn't really cool but what can you do...sue? man we would be tied up in court for centuries

Submitted by [Please enter a... (not verified) on

We are not Greek because of White people. Common miscocnception. We are greek because of Masonry and the OES (Order of the Easter Star). They started what have become Greek Orgs. Furthermore, Greece, was once inhabited but quite a few "blacks," and itself was quite multicultural, but choose to portray white imagery, because it was easier. Also colored materials were harder to find and sculpt. In fact, it is widely thought that Athena herself was Black. Or at least of Eqyptian descent. So Black Greek is just not oxymoronic, unless you haven't done enough reading, and have simply come to conclusions based off what you think you know. Read a little bit more.

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I have been reading some of the things that have been said on this site, and many people have many valid points. In response to "I Really Wish People Would" by Anonymous, I would just like to share that in the interest of us "doing more research" we want to make sure that our claims are also accurate. The one correction is that Maya Angelou is an AKA not a Delta. Delta Sigma Theta also has many noteworthy members though, in support of your point. I agree with the rest of your argument.

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I was reading your passage about MIAKA and I noticed that you listed Maya Angelou as a Delta. This is incorrect. She is a member of AKA. However, we do have great women like Maya Angelou such as: Aretha Franklin, Nikki Giovanni, Cisely Tyson, Johnetta Cole, etc.

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FYI there are gay underground organizations 4 Zeta Phi Beta, Delta Sigma Theta, and Sigma Gamma Rho. They just are not in the lime light right now.

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I am not opposed to a gay or lesbian organization. I don't think it serves a beneficial purpose to purposely imitate, or even mock any sorority, white or black because you were not allowed based on your gender. A sorority would not be a sorority if it allowed men. It would then be called a co-ed organization. It is unfortunate that these individuals would occupy their time by trying to join, let alone, try to force a hand that wasn't meant for them from the very beginning. As a black women, I think these organizations have served a greater purpose, despite the negative stigma attached to them. Every organization, whether it be Black Greek, or even on campus Christian, has their flaws. People can't and won't do better, unless they know what better is. Criticism is only helpful, if and only if, the criticizer is wIlling to provide solutions to correct the problem. By the way, you mentioned DST would not allow this. DST currently has a male member in their organization. Supreme Court allowed the male member in because there wasnt anything in their bylaws stating a male could not be a member.
My advice to these individuals is as follows:
1. Get a life.
2. Create YOUR OWN ORGANIZATION that will
be more conducive to you and your needs. This is one main reason why Black Greek organizations were created. We as African Americans were not allowed to become members of the White organizations.
3. Your behavior is disrespectful to all those Black women who worked their tails off to create these organizations. I would even go as far to guess that many of you in this photo have aunts, cousins, mothers, sisters, and grandmothers who are members of these organizations.

SHOW THESE WOMEN SOME RESPECT BECAUSE THEY HAVE EARNED IT.

Submitted by [Please enter a... (not verified) on

This is just not a aka thing there are gay men who are delta's, aka's, zeta's, and sgrho. most of the time the guys that are doin it are apart of a devine nine already but there stories that the miaka's came from grambling and the ladies of aka took boys and put them in the process. also they are many gay frats and soro's delta phi upslion, kappa psi kappa, gamma mu phi, and list goes on so they have ways to go if they want to be apart of a brotherhood

Submitted by [Please enter a... (not verified) on

This issue is alive and well and apparently (from what I've been told) around for decades. I'm sorry to correct you Xenophon, but these gay males aren't just mimicing the AKA's, they are also doing the same to the Delta's. While I do agree that Fraternities are not openly accepting to gay males, it is still NO excuse to disrespect what these ladies have all worked to established. It is far more commendable to start your own org. than to trivialize what others have established.

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Whether you agree with Black GLOs or not, you cannot argue with trademark and copyright infringement. In addition, these people are being mocked moreso because they are gay men than for any other valid reason. As a member of Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc., I am appalled for other reasons. The fact that a MAN of any sexuality wants to be "in" or "aid" (This is a lie because auxillary organizations should not call, throw up symbols, wear the letters, etc. if they are truly AIDING the sorority.) a sorority is beyond me.
Someone said that they picked AKAs and not another organization. Try that again. There are gay "deltas," "zetas," etc. In fact, if you are ever in New Orleans, visit the gay club Fusions and you'll find them all. The local chapter of MIAKAS and whatever the others call themselves frequent this spot. My homosexual friends find it quite funny that they've made their club into a Greek party on certain nights. It's the MIAKAs that get press time and media covarage - NOT that they are the only ones that exist. Now ask yourself why THAT is . . .Hmmmm . . .

Then to build upon this idea, if you don't agree with the Panhell thing which means the good and the bad, like associatives of hazing and "spanking each others' butts" then why would you or anyone else who doesn't agree with it use this as a basis for your argument.
Hmmm . . .

Lastly, you implying that AKAs are passive women who will sit back and let anything ride. . . in the words of my linesister, "DON'T LET THE PRETTY FOOL YOU!!"

Funny that you buy into the stereotypes . . . Common, in fact!

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Missing in action and a bunch of kaka.
Quit clowin', fools.

How about Gay k Gay?

Oh, I know,

Skee-zers' Anonoymous?
Thanks for a great laugh.

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if i didnt know in any better i say they were KAPPA ALPHA PSI BROTHERS.........LOL

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In my own opinion i feel that these groups are downright disrespectful. The women in AKA worked hard to earn their letters and for a group of men that can't get it together on whether they are men or women to come along and claim some of their traditions is an outrage. I don't even think they realize how hard all of AKAs founders worked to establish these organizations that they are mimicing.

And for "chicago dyke", clearly you were scorned by an organization to even feel that way. BGLOs are not even in the least an imitation of the white plantation system...maybe where you are from, but here in NC, no not even in NC, Ive been many places where there are darkskinned AKAs, light skinned Deltas, skinny zetas...etc there arent any supported sterotypes from what ive seen

BTW, Im not greek.

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Well first off I feel that people are just mad cause its gay men who formed this group stop hatin cause its something that you couldn't step up to the plate and do yourself. No one has a problem with sweethearts (Iota Sweethearts, Que Essence, Kappa Diamonds, A Hearts and etc) I think that everyone needs help when they are on line and there is nothing wrong with having a sweetheart to the AKA'S nor the DELTA'S. So like I said its only cause they are gay and there should be no problem with that cause if they are doing it for a good cause then so be it. Good luck to all the MIAKA'S and DELTA GENTS or (MIDST).

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Submitted by chicago dyke on

um, you're so far off base, i'll just laugh at you. please comment and read more here, and you'll begin to understand who i am. or what it is that i know, and you don't, of the "greek" system. start with that word, and you'll begin to understand my critique.

if you dare.

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Black Greek Letter Organizations are sooo plantation. What sense does it make for a black person to model themselves after a Greek mystery cult if they understood that they were making a copy of a copy? Perhaps if they referred to themselves as a Bund or society then, maybe they wouldn’t give the impression that they were acting in response to a need to affirm their civility by organizing their protest in terms of the very system that oppressed them. You have trouble with a white hegemonic system so you use a white hegemonic system to organize a counter hegemonic movement . . . ??? No, in this sense you can’t use the master’s tools to dismantle the house.

CD - smooches.

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This is very ludacris. May i add. This whole Miaka thing is the most disrespectful thing i've ever seen. How can you "LB's" love AKA so much and then disrespect what AKA is. A sorority. Not only that MIAKA has totally tried to steal traditional AKA values. Last time I checked people dont still from people they love. As for the comment posted by Xenophon...Really getting technical, the greek letters used are originally Egyptian symbols..so black sororities are just taking back what belonged to them in the firsr place. Egypt is in Africa for those who dont know or choose not to believe it.

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Being that you can't be an aka why not have ya own color and style don't try to be them be better than them but me myself is not a supporter of miaka why not be kappa cause they are fruitie just like ya'll

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It's the mix. What we need to do is more black life posts.

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OK my issues is that if they want to feel apart of something or be accepted, get your own organization started.. Go through what the founders had to go through in the beginning to make their organizations what they are today... How can u walk around on campus and not feel like you are not disrespecting... My alma matter would have not tolerated that in any matter!!!!

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WITH THE NAME OF THE ONE CREATOR ALMIGHTY

May truth,right mindedness,faith,trust,and peace be the blessings upon the Believers who are not confused about the nature given male and female human life by the ONE CREATOR ALMIGHTY.

Homosexuality is wrong and totally unacceptable to those who are firm in faith,and who trust the Guidance of Scripture as the way to live a successful life, both here and hereafter. The Almighty has guided that homosexuality is an evil sin to be condemned and not practiced. G-D said
it,Believers believe it, that settles it.

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what does a sexual orientation have to do with a group are what i believe, a spiriutal belief has nothing to do with my greek choice,but therei also a place for a judger to thank you

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Everybody is allowed their own point ofd view, you can interpet the bible that was and others will interpit it another. if you can not deal with HOMOSEXUALS then you need to leave the country. we are a force to be reconed with and we do not plain on leaving, we WILL be accepted by every walk of life, and will not stand for decrimamation. this is not the old slave days and we are standing up for our right to kiss in public and be married because noone can controle who they love.

Submitted by lambert on

There are so many, you see. It all becomes very confusing.

No authoritarians were tortured in the writing of this post.

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Submitted by chicago dyke on

amazing. the homophobia on this thread is telling.

i'll be doing a post on this soon. Folk- this is exactly what the republicans want from you, those who hate you the most. while you're all busy hating me, they are busy locking up our men and destroying our communities. trust me when i say it's not gay men who are responsible for the problems of black america today.

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As a brother of Alpha Phi Alpha, I just don't see how this could of happened. We were built on tradition, how could you let 8 men come into a women sorority. I believe its a disgrace, and should not be allow to happen. It is not discrimination, it just right, the Alpah organization does not discriminate on race, creed, color or religion. But people are saying that its right, well how would they feel if some women pledged Omega. Now that they have allowed men to pledge AKA, butch women from all over are now gonna want to pledge Omega and maybe even they cute studs are gonna want to be Kappas, so then how will it be justifed?

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My APhiA brother, could you possibly be active to even believe that AKA has pledged men? Any reputable Greek member knows that our bylaws prohibit such. I'm disappointed in you.

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Some ppl need a little clarification, and i know about MiAKA so I figured I would explain. The guys are not in AKA-- they see themselves as an extention of the sorority, an underground strand. there are other strands, for example there would be a "grown woman strand" of a sorority for women 30+. They study everything about AKA and make it their own.

There are underground AKAS, Deltas, Rhos, and tons of other organizations that gays and lesbians have formed, even an Omega form for lesbians (Omicron Psi Omega and their sister organization @ BetaPhiOmega.net). Yes they are incorporated. I believe it's a beautiful thing and it promotes community service and cohesiveness even here in lil old Tallahassee.

Its new to me as well, but now I love it, especially when they stroll at parties!

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and they're usually able to rock your world in the sack.

butch women are always welcome at Mu Kappa Beta, which is greek for "Mighty Corrente Building."

bring on the butch women!

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MKB?! CD you a funny mother fucker.

Yo Sphinxman, chill. I don't think they are official. I don't think the AKA's have officially inducted these gentlemen into their organization. Perhaps if there was an open dialogue among the “brothers” without the “Oh my god you’re a fag” attitude they wouldn’t have to go under ground and form a shadow organization. Why not let them out of the closet? Do we as Black folk really have the time and energy to spend our time witch hunting homosexuals? Obviously, they didn’t feel that the homosexuals in Alpha were their cup of tea. There are larger issues we need to be concerned about. While it may be disturbing on the gender bending, V for Vendetta level of things it really is a commentary on the obsolescence and growing irrelevance of black fraternities and sororities.

Why don’t we talk about the fact that “scholarship funds” and “tutoring” just aren’t cutting it. Why don’t we talk about the fact that the Black Greek organizations have grown weak and ineffective. Why don’t we talk about why Bruce Gordon had to leave the NAACP? Can we please put our efforts into a productive discussion about something other than who you might be fucking. Do you really want us probing into the inner sanctum of Alpha? Do we really want to solve the Sphinx’s riddle? Do we want to discuss what they say about Alpha “men?” Or can we move on to more important issues? Like why the hell did we let Oprah get away with building a school in South Africa while bad mouthing African American students? Why didn’t we challenge her to advocate for better schools, better, teachers, parent accountability, and equality of resources? Why aren’t we watching as Black folk are blamed for the damage done by hip hop? Why aren’t we questioning BMI, Time Warner, Universal Vivendi, and the rest of the media for promoting an image that is destructive to black folk? Why aren’t we discussing the environmental racism that takes place every day in urban areas where pollution and environmental toxins are creating record numbers of asthmatics among Black and Latino and Poor white Children? While all of you were crossing the burning sands did you ever stop to think about what we are going to do about the genocide in Darfur, the conquest of Somalia and the Rape of Africa – again? What the hell ever happened to being conscious? Surely there is something better we could expend our energies on. Grow up.

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Hey your post got me thinking about which direction I want my chapter to go before leaving college. Would like to talk more. email me.

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"the Guidance of Scripture as the way to live a successful life, both here and hereafter. The Almighty has guided that homosexuality is an evil sin to be condemned and not practiced. G-D said
it,Believers believe it, that settles it."

Like Lambert said, which God are you talking about? Which scripture? Whose scripture? For that matter which Bible?

You couldn’t mean that same book of fiction that said that Ham was cursed by Noah. That same story white people used as justification to enslave black people? The same book that makes eating a pork chop punishable by death? Don’t touch that crab! When was the last time you stoned someone? If you see a pretty woman and are married are you going to pluck out your eye? Come on man, are you really going to base your life on a 5,000 year old pulp fiction? For real? What the fuck is up with this G-D shit? It’s not even four letters? God is not the name of God. That is why we write G.O.D. Damn I hate stupid ass believers!! Get the rules of the faith right and then be faithful, turn off the TV ministry, get out of the shopping mall you call a church, put away your stake and bonfire, forgive whoever molested you as a child, realize the world is uncertain and you have no control, understand that a Bible is not an air bag, and get a life.

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First and foremost GOD is GOD, because he is self exisitng and need nothing from no one....not even you....surely not me.

Secondly you should pick up the bible before you speak "your" truth and read that Jesus speaks to the issue of pork by teaching us that it is not what goes into the mouth of a man that makes him unholy but what comes from the heart that defiles him.

Youre correct about us not having any control....because we dont....and the world is uncertain....to man that is....because God knows all things. If we knew all things that would make us Gods and since we are all sinners by nature alone, its impossible for us to be God...therefore the mystery in which we live in defends the truth that we are certainly not in control.....but I am victrious in life knowing that I have a relationship with the one who is in control....therefore I live life to the fullest.

Furthermore GOD is LOVE and LOVE is every TRUE Believer's religion! SO I love you and wish that knowledge and wisdom bless you. And yes LOVE is my airbag and that is way I am able to love you when youre gay and when your straight! Just as God came into the world NOT to condemn it but to show it the way to live...so as I do....

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just glad it was not my sorority, but it is disrespectful

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