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This will be a mostly fact-free touchy-feely sort of post, and although the subject is controversial, I want to make it clear that what I'm asking about has nothing to do with the Man himself, and is only about "the market" that is the progressive/liberal political blogosphere. Which, iirc is about 1% of the size of the Harry Potter Fanpr0n blogosphere, but never mind that...

Anyway, Lambert is trying to make me bust a rib, and linked to this post on ways to make trouble and insult people while losing friends and making new ones. It's one of several I have seen recently. It's almost like a new market has been born: how to get 0000s of hits on a brand-new website dedicated to hating the #1 Satan on the interwebs.

I don't care if he "deserves" it or not; I don't care if the site is "as good as always" or not. I do care about what seems to be a what, exactly? Splitting? Breaking into divergent parts? Feuding? in the progressive blogosphere. Just as there is great difference between what career DNC folk want and are working for in this primary. Interesting, as this is happening at the same time the progblogosphere seems to be dividing itself into GOS and anti-GOS camps. Which is ironic and funny, because just as Lord Satan isn't responsible for everything that happens in every corner of the progblogosphere, so too will HRC or BHO be unable to affect the great change in the country that supporters claim and expect. Are "we" once again ahead of the curve, and learning that our heroes have feet of clay, and tools have limits, before the rest of America will?

Anyway, I like Markos and I sometimes find good stuff at his site. I'm not really more invested than that, emotionally, whatever. Sigh, once I was invested in the presidential primary process, emotionally, and more; I wonder if the various camps in the GOS Wars will someday be here too- shrugging and saying, "feh." And perhaps even learning: there's more to do out there than crow about an interwebular ranking; activism, even.

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Submitted by DCblogger on

The post you link to demonstrates the emotional hold electronic communities have over their members. It was so thrilling in 2002 to discover the whole nation had not gone crazy, that there were pockets of sanity, online communities became a source of solace. So when one becomes alienated from what was formerly a source of solace there is a great deal of anger. It is probably better not to blog during that process.

It is inevitable that as lefty blogosphere continues to grow it will continue to fracture.

Having said that, Kos sets a terrible example for online bullies, there is a reason that the worst flame wars occur over there. You sometimes see that at MyDD, rarely at the pond or Atrios, I think it is because the proprietors don't feel called upon to issue decrees.

I also think the whole system of rating comments are a standing invitation to flame wars. The Slashdot system that you cannot rate a comment on a thread where you are making comments, and a five minute wait between comments inhibits flame wars. Once your site passes 100,000 visitors a day, it is time to consider measure like that.

This assumes you object to flame wars, and I don't think Kos has any objection to them, as long as the deck is stacked in his favor.

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Submitted by Stellaaa on

I know many a people that will not align with the frat boy political voice. We are finding new voices that we respect and are more progressive. I fear that the Mainstream blogs became embedded journalists in the Obama camp. Furthermore the lazy MSM just picked up their stories and angle. There is no critical thinking, no analysis, just bits and bytes of missinformation. Sad state of affairs since we are risking a Democratic agenda going down the toilet.

Submitted by lambert on

Fucking purge, is what it was. And if orchestrated from inside DK, I hope Kos sent Axelrod an invoice.

There's a reason the color scheme derives from Cheetohs...

[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

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Submitted by A. Citizen on

.....but well deserved. As a veteran Troll for Orangeland, iceberg slim and her MySpace Pagians do not have any deep affection for my 'drivebys' on their nonsense, and having had my differences with Lambert I speak for those who dare not mention their names.....

Folks who want to see the progressive movement grow and develop:

Policies which will help the majority of the citizenry...not the uber-Rich.

Programs that will reverse our decades long decline in the educational level of the average American. 25% no longer know who Hitler was.....one in five think the sun circles the earth...

Programs which will enable our 'civilization' to become sustainable....before it's too fucking late.

Not...cheerleading for some assclown because he says, 'Trust me and believe...' That worked so well in the past did it not.

Not...win a supermajority in the Congress for the likes of 'The Rabbit' Emmanuel and Co. so they can earmark the shit out of the U.S. Treasury..

I'm gonna be working on my series of posts about The Three Most Important Problems Progressives Must Solve.....

Not watching Markos, whom I've met, debated and personally like preside over a mosh pit of frat-boy highjinks and Axelrod talking points.

The Oborg can all continue to drink the Kool-Aid Jim Jones style.

HIllbots march in lockstep to global catastrophe...

I care not.

When they crawl out of the wreckage of their hangover muttering.....Whaaaa Happened?

I'll be there with some concrete ideas about what to do for the citizens of this nation. Not the 'Rock Star Gods' such want to erect and worship.

A. Citizen

Peace, Health and Prosperity for Everyone.

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Submitted by dr sardonicus on

Daily Kos is a house organ of the regular Democratic Party. Progressives should know by now that the Democratic Party is not their friend.

...for the rest of us

Submitted by lambert on

Feel free to propagate "the color of Cheetohs" meme as part of DK's ongoing process of rebranding....

[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.