
Dick Cheney says torture works. Dick Cheney says torture saved American lives. Dick Cheney says torture was only used on hardened terrorists.
Dick Cheney is a LIAR.
Investigate. Indict. Prosecute. Convict. Imprison.
Yes, this issue is as important as the financial issues facing our country. It may be more important than the health-care issue facing our country, because if we let Dick Cheney, George W. Bush, Donald Rumsfeld, Condoleezza Rice and the rest of the pro-"enhanced interrogation method" cabal get away scot free, we won't be punishing them for the ruin they've made of our nation, the dishonor they've brought to our military, the torture camps they turned our POW operations into, or the sheer unadulterated dishonesty they used to torture people into giving their lies credibility.
Just one example from the Washington Note article:
o furious was this effort that on one particular detainee, even when the interrogation team had reported to Cheney's office that their detainee "was compliant" (meaning the team recommended no more torture), the VP's office ordered them to continue the enhanced methods. The detainee had not revealed any al-Qa'ida-Baghdad contacts yet. This ceased only after Ibn al-Shaykh al-Libi, under waterboarding in Egypt, "revealed" such contacts. Of course later we learned that al-Libi revealed these contacts only to get the torture to stop.There in fact were no such contacts. (Incidentally, al-Libi just "committed suicide" in Libya. Interestingly, several U.S. lawyers working with tortured detainees were attempting to get the Libyan government to allow them to interview al-Libi....)
If we won't prosecute for that, how can we hope to account for financial misdeeds?
Poorly.
How can we hope to reverse the FISA and USA PATRIOT ACT abominations?
We can't.
How do we return our country to Constitutional government and the rule of law?
If we don't start NOW, we'll never get there.
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the logical assumption from your premises
We can't get there from here, because we're going past the last exit to democracy even as we write these posts.
Of course, there's always the U-turn on the median option, but that's gonna get messy.
No Hell below us
Above us, only sky
The U-turn on the median option
I like that...
I supppose there's also the "throw the steering wheel out of the window" option, too.
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi
Well, I think the chances appear
to be considerably less possible then we were led to believe they would be during the general election (although that FISA vote is proving to be more predictive of Obama's commitment than a lot of people want to admit), so if it happens, it's going to have to come from Congress, and after seeing Democratic House members vote for that supplemental for no other reason than to show loyalty to Obama - well, let's just say, I'm not feeling real positive about them, either.
I am feeling more than ever that neither the president, nor the Congress - with a few exceptions there - is listening to the people. On issue after issue after issue, the people have expressed their preferences and almost universally been ignored and dismissed and told that what we want is not possible. Why? And for what? Corporate America, it seems.
I don't know what happened to righting the wrongs of the Bush administration, but I know that we are close to crossing, if we have not already crossed, the line that was supposed to separate us from them - and we may now be them. That's sadder and more sickening than I imagined it could be.
Your last two paragraphs sound like what I said to the DNC
guy who took my call today.