
I'm sure everyone here has heard all of the arguments for why we shouldn't vote for a third party candidate. I never seriously considered voting third party until being betrayed by Obama, though there is plenty of evidence to indicate that the betrayal is my own fault. But I have plenty of company there - there are lots of liberals and progressives who fell for Obama's rhetoric, too. All I can do is say, "mea culpa" and promise to do better.
When my friends tell me that I am wasting my vote if I vote third party, that such a vote guarantees that the Republican candidate will win, etc., etc., etc., I turn the assertion around and tell them that they are wasting their vote by voting Democrat or Republican because candidates for those parties are vetted by the elite and by voting for those candidates, they are endorsing the elite agenda. That almost always goes right over the tops of their heads.
Anyway, I'm sure everyone here has been in this situation so I wanted to share an article that I found on the Monthly Review site. I have no idea how I found this article, but it is the best argument I've ever seen for why we should vote our conscience and not for a candidate that everyone else tries to sway us into voting for.
Imagine what would happen if fifty million people voted for Jill Stein and Rocky Anderson. Their election wouldn't cure our ailments, but it would prove that Americans are fed up with the status quo. Wishful thinking, I know, I know.
Interestingly enough, the article was written before the 2008 elections. It is quite long and has a lot of links in it, so I'm just going to provide a link to it, rather than try to post it here.
The title is The Evil of the Lesser Evil and it is by Pham Binh.
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I think it was Eugene Debs who said
that it is better to vote for what you want and not get it than vote for what you don't want and get it.
according to the interwebz
you are absolutely correct.
Ballot Access
I've been following some of the links in the article and ended up on the Ballot Access News website. This fascinating article was written by Richard Winger
, who went on to establish Ballot Access News. In the article (written in 1994, so perhaps things have changed), Winger claims that
"America's ballot-access laws are so stringent, and third parties are repressed to such a degree, that the U.S. is probably in violation of the Copenhagen Meeting Document, an international agreement the U.S. signed in 1990 that requires nations to:
'Respect the right of individuals and groups to establish, in full freedom, their own political organizations and provide such political parties and organizations with the necessary legal guarantees to enable them to compete with each other on the basis of equal treatment before the law and the authorities.'"
So when Libertarians complain about the non-existence of "free market capitalism", I guess they should add the fact that there isn't a free market in political parties, either!
The important thing is to never stop questioning. - Albert Einstein
Obama showed his true colors
much before the 2008 campaign. His actions during and after the Ned Lamont campaign in Conn. showed him to be the person he turned out to be. Of course his Senate voting record in 2007 and 2008 also reflected his true self.
only if you looked carefully
Obama had made that anti-war speech in 2003. He kept making progressive noises all thru the primaries. It was maddening at the time, but looking back, I can see how people were fooled. The important thing is that an increasing number of people have worked out that the legacy parties are irredeemable.
Yes! His words said one thing
but his actions implied something quite different. It is perhaps better to look at what a person has done, rather than what he/she has said.
Fooling People
A whole bunch of progressive luminaries got fooled - see this list that appeared in the August 18, 2008 issue of The Nation. Heck, even Bill Fletcher, of the Black Agenda Report, signed the list! No need to apologize for making a mistake - we had good company. Now, if I had been a socialist then instead of a Democrat, I would have had no excuse. But if pigs could fly ...
The important thing is to never stop questioning. - Albert Einstein
I had my head bitten off
when in 2007 and 2008, I pointed out the discrepancies between his words and his deeds. I was told that I did not understand realpolitik. I was told that this discrepancy was absolutely essential if Obama was to be elected President. I was told that it would all change when he was President for then he could do what he "really" wanted! Those same people are still making excuses for his actions as President. Facing up to the reality of who he really is leads to too much cognitive dissonance.
Gee, that's all?
They didn't smear you as a racist? You got off easy!
First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win. -- Mahatma Gandhi
Generally, the color of my skin
and my name protect me from that particular smear. Though realistically neither of them should matter, for racism is a frame of mind that exists independent of race or color.
Fletcher is with "Black Commentator"
Black agenda report never joined the list.
Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies.
Groucho Marx
Ooops!
Ooops! My bad. Thanks for the correction. But Eric Foner, William Greider, and Howard Zinn are on the list. Not that that excuses my mistake, though. We had good company, for sure.
The important thing is to never stop questioning. - Albert Einstein
Ah, the antiwar speech
No time now to relitigate the various levels of iffiness of that speech, but they exist, starting with the lack of a timely recording or transcript.
First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win. -- Mahatma Gandhi
DCBlogger's post
here referring to this USA Today piece about “voters leaving the Democratic and Republican parties in droves” is an interesting complement to yours.
Just as some random thoughts:
It's one thing to prefer a third party candidate; it's another to realize that neither of the two major parties are responsive to your interests (or those of any voter like you [i.e., “the 99%]); and yet another to find out that a lot of other people have come to a similar realization or think that they do (almost half of the public thinks the sentiment of the Occupy movement generally reflects the views of most Americans—that percentage strikes me as one signifying some sort of “critical mass”) and that there's a chance, therefore, that a substantial number of voters might defect like you—that sort of dynamic has the potential of being a self-fulfilling, “snowball” one and a very different dynamic than what's been present in recent US history, I think. (That doesn't mean that any third party candidate is likely to win but just that the electoral landscape might be more “unsettled.”)
Every apathetic citizen is a silent enlistee in the cause of inverted totalitarianism.—Sheldon Wolin
Good Ideas
I particularly liked your last paragraph. I never seriously considered a third party candidate until this year because, like you wrote, I had come to the conclusion that neither of the two major parties are responding to my interests. I get really upset when I get a canned e-mail response from "my" senator or representative saying that they got my input and here is what we have been doing for you (patting back furiously). Delete. I agree that the electoral landscape is quite unsettled but I'm not sure that is a good thing - we may have to go through some really difficult experiences before things settle down again. As JFK so famously said, "[t]hose who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." It does appear that the elite is doing its best to make peaceful revolution impossible, both here and abroad. I truly hope that it doesn't come to violent revolution in this country - nothing good has ever come from violence. But as long as people are denied their voice, this current situation of smoldering resentment, with outbreaks by militia movement members (Loughner and others), the Tea Party, and the OWS movement will continue.
The important thing is to never stop questioning. - Albert Einstein
But, wait -
He did not "say one thing and do another". He said one thing and then said another.
And if you were paying attention, you already knew he could not mean both of them.
I distrusted him early on because I read his words and saw a weasel.
That, and the fact that the media fell so instantly in love with him. That was a bad, bad sign.
More liberal media at The Sideshow.
It's about the context
Isn't it?
Here we are, nearly in January 2012. We've seen Obama and the Ds in Congress betray the most sacred principles of the Republic, and vote again and again in favor of the interests of the wealthy and powerful, and the very large Wall Street Interests. Not only is there no positive reason to vote for them, but there's also every reason to punish them for their behavior. So, the question is how do we do it?
From my point of view, this is not so much about third parties. What it's about is replacing current office holders with people who we believe will represent us. If the people involved are third party candidates that's fine as long as they have a chance to win. But here's the difficult part. It's easy to advocate voting for a third party candidate if one can win, and it's easy to say we ought to vote for one because if we all do they can get 50 million votes and win. But that glosses over the realities of political campaigns ending in elections. They are processes, and at each moment in such a process the likelihoods affecting our calculations about outcomes are very different.
At this time, the people dissatisfied with the major parties' behavior should already have movements built, their own mobilization organizations standing outside of the veal pen, and a populist third party that has come far enough to be on the ballot in 50 states. Then the likelihood that third party candidates can be elected would be much higher than it is now.
As it stands, however, progressives are not ready to punish Obama and the Ds in 2012 with a credible third party effort. The handwriting on the Wall about this president was certainly clear enough by June of 2009 to have warranted a full on effort to create alternative political machinery to the Democratic Party fueled by organizations and movements independent of it. But that framework for a serious effort was never built. So what do we have now?
We have OWS, single-payer advocacy organizations, some small third party efforts and not much else to fight with. So, how likely is it that a third party effort can move the balance of power in Congress to elect people who will defeat Pelosi and Reid and select new leaders who won't just rubber stamp Obama and do what the corporates want? Is it more likely that we can make this happen than it is that we can get Green New Deal candidates winning in democratic primaries, and then in the general election who will do the same thing? At this point we have to make this judgment before deciding on whether we go all out for a third party at this point, or go all out for Ds who will insist on a Green New Deal come what may.
In another month, the contextual situation will be still different than it is now. Then there will be even less time to get third parties on ballot lines in 50 States. As the months go by the likelihood of third parties affecting the Congress will get smaller and smaller, so as the months go by, and at the Congressional levels it will make even less sense to try to change things through third parties than it will to try to have an impact through Democratic party primaries. Depending on the State, by Spring most Congressional primaries will be over, and unless we've gotten Green New Dealers elected, we'll be facing lesser evilism in elections for the House and the Senate.
What about state and local elections, can we get candidates who will represent us at those levels? Clearly, that's now very important, since if we can take over Governorships and get Mayoral offices in larger cities we'll be in a position to get OWS and other protesters protected from the Cops and the military. This is very important. Local and State Officials have to be taught that if they will not protect our first amendment rights, then they're out. If we can't do that then we'll be out forever.
Now, what about the presidential level? There what we do has to depend in part on who the R candidate turns out to be. Most of the R candidates are crazy tools of the Koch brothers and other Wall Street interests. Gingrich is the stuff of which dangerous dictatorships are made. Romney is a liar, but would probably just muddle along as Obama has, heating up the frog that is our political system slowly, while he continued repress the very idea of justice, and maybe never using the framework that's been put in place to turn it into a full-on Fascist dictatorship.
Huntsman and Buddy Roemer seem out of the R race. But both are getting pushed by Americans Elect, an extremely dishonest organization with a web-based platform for nominating people that is well on the way toward getting ballot lines in 50 States. One thing AE is dishonest about is its branding as a non-partisan organization trying to provide a platform for voters to nominate their choice for President of the United States, who would then run on the AE ticket. I've talked about AE at length now in a few posts and pointed out all the different ways in which it is dishonest.
But clearly based on my analyses, it is an organization dedicated to nominating a candidate who can be trusted to support a globalist trade policy, to support Wall Street interests and the 1% more generally, and also to support a fiscal policy of Government austerity and long-term deficit reduction.
Neither Roemer, nor Huntsman fits this bill perfectly. Huntsman hasn't been tight about spending at the State level, and might not be sufficiently vigorous in bringing entitlement spending under control for the AE people. That is, he might be much like Obama in this respect.
As for Roemer, he may not be as supportive of globalism and Wall Street as I think Hunstman would be. He might be more serious about enforcing the law and not bowing to the big banks. But I also think he would be more serious about austerity than Huntsman, and so would be more of a disaster for the economy and will place more pressure on the middle class.
I can't tell whether Huntsman or Roemer is likely to consolidate the legal framework for totalitarianism created By Bush, Obama, and the major Parties. That's just an open question. But neither one appears to be mean or fanatic.
So, AE, which is not supposed to be "pushing" anyone for President is "pushing" these two right now. They may"push" Bloomberg later, or Romney if he loses the R nomination. But the good news is that neither Huntsman nor Roemer seems to be as mean or narrow or dishonest as the other candidates running, and may provide an opportunity to beat Obama without opening the Presidency to a madcap Republican, or a sinister one.
In any event, there's a chance that AE will nominate either one for President and that the ticket emerging will be on all 50 State Ballots, so a vote for that ticket might allow us to practice "lesser evilism" in a good way, by punishing Obama with a defeat, without thereby electing whichever one of the totally unacceptable Republican candidates gets their "prize." If we can do that while also electing green New Dealers, then I think there would be people in Congress willing to offer vigorous criticism of Roemer or Huntsman on behalf of the 99%, and perhaps even willing to tightly align with a growing OWS movement. And that would give us something to build on and the time, perhaps to be ready for 2016 with a new Party, or a re-claimed D Party that we could count on and that would have a chance to win.
What about third party efforts like the Greens or those of the Justice Party? I think if we really want to have a meaningful choice of candidates from one of those parties, Jill Stein or Rocky Anderson or both n a fusion ticket, then we have to get them on the ballot in most or all 50 States during the next 3-6 months. If we can't do that then, at the presidential level, we'll be faced with a choice of the R-candidate, President O, or perhaps one of the AE selections, which could get really bad if they go for Bloomberg, for example, and then we get to the tradeoffs above, with the best we can get from the election being a President no worse than O, a freeing up of those who want to help the 99%, and a chance for four more of years of time in which we can get fine people like Jill Stein, Rocky Anderson, Bill Black, Margaret Flowers, Kevin Zeese, and Warren Mosler, who care about us, a fighting chance to win the White House and other high offcies
In looking at these possibilities we need to keep monitoring and analyzing month-to-month changes in the situation, it makes no sense now to decide that we will never vote this way or that. We have to make that decision when we come down to voting and between now and then we have to do all we can to make sure that we will have a meaningful choice by seeing to it that Greens and Justice Party candidates get on ballot lines in all 50 States.
It may also be a good idea to test out the AE process to see if we can push them into a corner where their board has to invalidate the candidacies of people they think don't reflect their partisan fiscal austerity agenda. Their claims that they're going to allow their delegates to nominate the American Elect candidate are not to be believed as long as they retain the right in their bylaws for the AE board to throw out of contention people they believe are inappropriate.
Justice Party
Unfortunately, from my reading of the ballot access laws in the 50 states, I think it is too late for the Justice Party to get on very many ballots. The smart thing for Anderson to do would be to get on the Green Party ticket, as a vice-presidential candidate. I think that might happen. If it does, that is a good thing. But it is also inadequate. Your points about nominating progressive Democrats and moderate Republicans at the local level is a good one, but I have no idea how that is done. For a progressive living in a very conservative area of the country, that is almost impossible. Can you imagine me going into a meeting of the local chapter of the Democratic Party and start talking about progressive ideas? I'd be lucky to escape alive! Problems, problems, problems. But the first step in solving a problem is to identify it.
The important thing is to never stop questioning. - Albert Einstein
It's tough, I know
But in deeply red areas one should go to R Party meetings and demand a return to the rule of law. You know there were once Republican progressives. There can be so again. Once Republicans believed in Clean Government. Once there were Republicans who busted trusts and who believed in tough regulations. Once there were Republicans who supported 90% marginal tax rates. Go to R meetings and talk about those Rs and what they believed. Don't try to run "moderate" Republicans. They/re corporatists who are pro-gay, and anti-discrimination, but they'may me even more pro-wall street than the tight-wing nutjobs. Find progressive Republicans. Run them. If we had even a few in Congress it could move everything in the right direction.
yep
robert reich has a good description of how the republican party came to be dominated by today's far right radicals.