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from tpm:

Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) just told reporters that he and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid shook hands last night at 10:30 p.m. with Sen. Ben Nelson (D-NE) on an agreement that he would vote for cloture on health care reform, on the basis of the abortion language in the manager's amendment.

(a) STATE OPT-OUT OF ABORTION COVERAGE.-- ''(1) IN GENERAL.--A State may elect to prohibit abortion coverage in qualified health plans offered through an Exchange in such State if such State enacts a law to provide for such prohibition.

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Submitted by DCblogger on

we need to flood our local papers with letters to the editor about how this bill will make our system much much worse. KILL THE BILL.

Press secretaries read letters to the editor. Moreoever, if editors are deluged with anti-health care letters from a left point of view they will realize that there really IS a backlash growing from the grassroots.

it is a best way to get our message out to the general public!

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Submitted by S Brennan on

KILL THE BILL...or else I will vote for your Republican Opponent...and I am not joking.

It seems to take the air out of the staff worker...and it's meant to.

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Submitted by madamab on

and saying the same thing.

Schumer is probably bullet-proof, but Gillibrand is vulnerable, and she has a very good record on women's rights so far. I am hoping she could be convinced to stand up for her fellow females and say HELL NO!!!

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I actually read he got plenty more than just an opt out for abortion coverage.

Big Government:

Exhibit A is the outright bribe extracted by Sen. Ben Nelson (D-Corn Huckster State) from Sen. Harry Reid. As a result of Nelson’s performance in his role of Hamlet in the health care deliberations, we will have two health care systems in this country; one for Nebraska and one for the other 49 states.

In its quixotic attempt to ensure everyone has health insurance, the Reid legislation greatly expands Medicaid eligibility. Because Medicaid is a program whose costs are split between the federal and state governments, this expansion in eligibility raise costs dramatically for states. States will be forced to either raise taxes or cut other services to accommodate the forced increase in Medicaid spending.

Unless that state is Nebraska.

Below is the text for Nelson’s bribe. Under this language the federal government will forever cover the costs of Medicaid expansion in Nebraska. Taxpayers in every other state will forever be responsible for the expanded Medicaid program in Nebraska.

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Outrageous doesn’t do justice to describe this situation. Sen. Nelson also secured an exemption from a new insurance tax for non-profit companies in his state. Mutual of Omaha and Nebraska’s Blue Cross/Blue Shield won’t have to pay a tax other companies will be required to pay.


In addition to the Medicaid carve out, Sen. Ben Nelson (D-Neb.) negotiated an exemption from the insurance tax for non-profit insurers based in his state.

The language was written in a way that only Mutual of Omaha Insurance Company, as well as Blue Cross Blue Shield nonprofit plans in Nebraska and Michigan, would qualify, according to a Democratic Senate aide.

Seems like he got quite a bit.

Submitted by lambert on

Am I the only one who thinks this is another example of a "progressive" instiution going insane?

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Submitted by madamab on

I left Moveon long ago when they obviously rigged the "who should we support in 2008" online vote in favor of Obama, whom no one had heard of at the time. "Progressives" were largely favoring Edwards or Kucinich, so the decision to go all-in for Obama was extremely suspect.

I just think that these late-to-the-party regressive statements against the bill give us cover when trying to convince others that we are right about the bill, and that we're not wingnuts. NOW has also come out against it and says if the abortion restrictions remain in the bill, it should be killed. (A little weak, but going in the right direction.)

Hipparchia, my apologies for not reading the fine MoveOn print. Regressives do seem to be united in the ability to ignore the effects of their favored policies on women. It truly is amazing how mad their skillz are in this area.

Submitted by lambert on
"... to ensure everyone has health insurance." Yep. Single payer, on the other hand, can be shown to save lives and money.

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Submitted by Valley Girl on

In its quixotic attempt to ensure everyone has health insurance, the Reid legislation .....

The piece has a lot of good points, but the sentence above struck me as weird-

Huh? Like the Reid "legislation" is on it's horse tilting at windmills?

Apart from the "legislation" being the actor, I thought, well maybe I don't know what quixotic means? I had to consult a dictionary:

1 : foolishly impractical especially in the pursuit of ideals; especially : marked by rash lofty romantic ideas or extravagantly chivalrous action
2 : capricious, unpredictable


Submitted by Anne on

realize that having insurance does not equate to having access to affordable care; that's going to be quite a rude awakening.

But, hey - who cares if it means there was an opportunity to screw women and deny them health care?

Yes, kill this thing, please; it's a travesty.

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Submitted by Valhalla on

thank goodness!:

Gone from the bill is a tax on cosmetic surgical procedures, including Botox injections.

This cryptic description of Boxer's involvement makes me think that her previous talking-tough stance on not voting for the bill when it was the Stupak amendment has evaporated:

Boxer has a strong record in favor of abortion rights. She told reporters as she left the Capitol at the end of Friday evening there had been progress made on the issue of separating personal funds, which may be used to pay for abortions, from federal dollars, which may not.

The Globe article overflows with positivity for the bill and yet fails to mention the mandates anywhere.

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Submitted by Aeryl on

That Terry O'Neill from NOW had commented on that, stating i.e. that it wasn't fair to penalize women attempting to comply with patriarchal beauty standards, especially in this economy.

Of course, it is the part of the bill that continues to enforce that patriarchy that is reinstated in this bill.

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Submitted by Valhalla on

the House bill still fails to include basic gynocological care, and the Senate rejected an amendment to include it. So while O'Neill's point is well taken, I'd rather get women basic health care before worrying about a tax on partriarchal compliance.

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Submitted by carissa on

Since he's my senator and all. On Tuesday I wrote:

No single payer, no public option, no Medicare buy-in, no cost controls, mandates to buy private insurance. Just kill the bill.

On Friday I received his canned reply. Honestly, there are just too many half-truths and lies to count.

Thank you for your letter on the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. I understand your concerns and I appreciate hearing from you regarding this landmark legislation.

Today there are reports of up to 47 million uninsured Americans, rising prescription drug prices, and declining health insurance benefits. I want to fix these problems and guarantee health care coverage to every Nevadan and American by lowering costs, expanding coverage, and improving health care quality. I am also committed to investing in the future by funding promising medical research and protecting the nation against serious threats to the public's health. That is why I have introduced the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act in the Senate, to make sure all Americans get the care and coverage they need and deserve.

The Patient Protections and Affordable Care Act will ensure that all Americans have access to quality, affordable health care and will transform the health care system in order to contain costs and expand coverage. This legislation will provide coverage for more than 94 percent of Americans, reduce the deficit over the next ten years, and stay under the $900 billion limit that was set by President Obama. The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act will not only lower costs, but improve choices, competition and offer more assistance to ensure that all Nevadans and Americans can afford health insurance.

Achieving health insurance reform will take time and patience, but there will be immediate changes made in 2010 to provide quality care. This legislation is the first step towards providing millions of Americans with affordable and effective health insurance. Please know that as we move forward, I will keep your ideas and concerns in mind. It is my hope that we can make affordable, comprehensive health coverage a reality for so many Americans who are currently struggling to pay their medical bills, and make ends meet.