It's always April Fool's Day when FDL writes about HCR
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Submitted by vastleft on Fri, 04/01/2011 - 11:21pm
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Even at this late date, the completely undefined a|the "public option" is written about there as if it meant something concrete (other than in the sense of a concrete block used to deep-six single-payer discussion and awareness).
Once again, where are the answers to these six simple questions?
And where is the refutation of this unabashedly pejorative and wholly accurate characterization of "public option"...?
“some sort of undetermined amount of access to some sort of undetermined program with some sort of undetermined benefits and some sort of farcical hope of creating some sort of competition to Big Insurance”

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The post gives a very clear demonstration of the idea...
that "one side is lying, and the other is not telling the truth."
Posted in reply to both you and selise...
Is it possible to get banned twice on the same issue :-) ?
Option?
The only option the public had in the final run up to a vote was to except or reject a Dem bill which instilled a mandate. When given that scenario FDL heads of blog never said kill the bill when they should have done so well before Christmas... while many, such as Jason at Seminal cheered for it (highest price in the world, no negotiated pharma, fascist profiteer subsidized mandates, endless exclusion of ten of millions from care) relentlessly.
I was a bit surprised and quite disappointed. Much more so that not one Prog in the House voted no on the final bill. How can the left develop a spine when they have not one unwavering representative? HOw can the left of the D party get a win for all people when their biggest player Labor was against single payer, against ending the jobs which would be lost for a while if we reduced MIC, etc?
Anyway, that party/wing of congress is either a big lie or a big coward or both. Either way, they have lost me for a long, long time. Kucinich (or any other elected House progressive) at his age killed the best chance for a progressive spine in generations... rejecting a golden opportunity, he failed to lead.. He should have bolted even if it was a political career ender. He's old enough and would be financially secure enough.... it was not about him, but appears he made it so in the most embarrassing light (Fu** Kos, Rachel, Keith too - all of whom probably don't know how much their HC costs or have to look at their balance before writing the check). To me, Kucinich's fold was an inherently unprogressive decision... as was so much of what happened/didn't happen at FDL and many other so-called prog blogs. Thus the defining moment was a loss too.
It really is time for the next blog like FDL (or FDL's potential - FDGreen!) to lay all their finances out in the open... as well as have authors and staff disclose any potential financial conflicts of interest. I don't know, but will always wonder what they might be over there.
Additionally these vague PO advocates failed then and now to embrace their left flank in a manner which could only help the PO move to a center compromise.
The best thing about the PO such as it was, was that a mere 25b out of a trillion dollars would not be tolerated... even though it would have improved image alone by millions of misled voters in the D party. Another huge tell as to how unrepresentative, and criminal the system is. WHy a PO or SP advocate will waste on minute negotiating with a D party apparatus instead of demanding it be dismantled is beyond me. One long exercise in negotiation with errorists.
Simple answers to simple questions
Q. "How can the left develop a spine when they have not one unwavering representative?"
A. Scrap their affiliation with the Ds, and build something new based on policy not tribe.
Another part of Obama(non?)Care in trouble: More Medicaid cuts
looming from budget strapped states. In LA, per this NYTimes article, specialists are becoming almost impossible for those on Medicaid to see. The repayment for treatment is so low, specialists are not taking Medicaid patients. Thus, patients diagnosed with need for surgery to be able to work, for example, can't get a specialist to do the surgery, and children diagnosted with psychological, development, or neurological conditions can't get a doctor to help them stay in school, for another example.
Around the nation, at least 20 states are trying to cut expenditures by cutting reimbursement to Medicaid providers.
And, the pressure is going to increase as more people are expected to be covered by Medicaid under Obama's insurance profit protection legislation.
We coulda had a contender; we could have aimed for Medicare for All Improved. But no, Obama had his promises to Big Health Insurers, Big Pharma, and other health industry players. He promised to protect the their profits through mandates -- and by shunting the poor into Medicaid.
Well, what good will it be with what the states are doing?
So, now even coverage for the poorest among us is on the chopping block.
Thanks a lot, Obama. NOT.
*The official poverty levels in this nation mean less than livable conditions and must be changed, but that's a different comment.
You're looking at this all wrong
http://www.correntewire.com/todays_excer...
Barack Obama: "I have no interest in putting insurance companies out of business. They provide a legitimate service, and employ a lot of our friends and neighbors."
It was surely the right thing to do to put their interests first!
Recently
Jon Walker has been making favorable references to single-payer. Also Jane Hamsher has been brushing elbows with Kevin Zeese and Margaret Flowers in supporting Bradley Manning.
These straws in the wind may mean nothing, but at a minimum the party line over there isn't being enforced on Jon Walker.
the party line over there
the party line over there isn't being enforced on Jon Walker.
not sure i agree. i think single payer gets mentioned favorably once in a blue moon over there with the objective of roping in single payer advocates to help fdl with their next big push for the public option sparkle pony 2.0.
it would be a good thing of course if i'm wrong about this and instead they're trying to rope in public option advocates to help fdl with their new big push for single payer.