If the witch is dead, why is The Atlantic trying to drown her?

Joshua Green explains how running an increasingly effective campaign proves that Hillary sux.

"...Hillary Clinton’s epic collapse in the Democratic primaries..."

What epic collapse? Millions of anybody-but-Hillary voters like yours truly rallied around her campaign. When it started, how many people did you know who were enthusiastic about her? How about when the primaries ended?

"...the candidate herself evinced a paralyzing schizophrenia"

Since the media is now in the business of free psychological diagnoses, did they offer her intra- and inter-party opponents one? Say, Narcissistic Personality Disorder and sociopathy?

...as a journalistic exercise, the “campaign obit” is inherently flawed, reflecting the viewpoints of those closest to the press rather than empirical truth.

Score one for the truth!

How did things look on the inside, as they unraveled?

Scratch that order of truth. Internal correspondence from a campaign that impressively righted itself is going to be used to show how it "unraveled."

...I approached a number of current and former Clinton staffers and outside consultants and asked them to share memos, e-mails, meeting minutes, diaries—anything that would offer a contemporaneous account. The result demonstrates that paranoid dysfunction breeds the impulse to hoard. Everything from major strategic plans to bitchy staff e-mail feuds was handed over.

You really hit your stride here, Joshua. You offer a bonus diagnosis: people who keep files exhibit "paranoid dysfunction." You deftly toss a "bitchy" into the mix without expressly tagging the Bitch-in-Chief with it. But most impressively, you provide absolutely no rationale for this kind of muckraking inquiry. Was somebody killed? Besides Vince Foster, I mean.

The anger and toxic obsessions overwhelmed even the most reserved Beltway wise men.

Score another one for Dr. Freud-Green. And who are these Beltway wise men of whom you speak?

Surprisingly, Clinton herself, when pressed, was her own shrewdest strategist, a role that had never been her strong suit in the White House.

You missed an opportunity here, Josh. You could have played "...never been her strong pantsuit" (an Atlantic favorite!) for the win. Nonetheless, this is a high-scoring play, with the unsupported claim that she's weak on strategy, which rationalizes your surprise that she is in fact good with strategy (not, of course, that that should count in her favor or shake our faith in you, baby).

Above all, this irony emerges: Clinton ran on the basis of managerial competence—on her capacity, as she liked to put it, to “do the job from Day One.” In fact, she never behaved like a chief executive, and her own staff proved to be her Achilles’ heel.

Despite being repeatedly kneecapped by the Clinton-hating media establishment (remember all that savvy press that said her presumably fake tears washed out her chances in New Hampshire?), by Axelrod's low-road politics, and by an army of MoDo-wannabe "progressive" bloggers, she invigorated her campaign and came close enough from behind that party insiders had to save Obama's bacon with shady dealings on MI and FL votes and lining up enough superdelegates to protect a slim lead built substantially on caucus, um, advantages in red states that Democrats can't win. She received more primary votes, won all the big states, and she gained momentum during the home stretch. Boy, that's an epic fail for the ages, huh?

There's an old comedy axiom: "you buy the premise, you buy the bit." If anyone else finds the time to read the rest of this no-doubt vital piece of gotcha journalism, please let me know what you think. Given that it's premised on utter hogwash, I'm going to — how do you say it? — move on....

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Winning the votes of most Democrats....

... is an "epic collapse"?

O-h-k-a-a-a-y...

[ ] Very tepidly voting for Obama [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi

But Of Course! Classic Big- Lie School of Propaganda!

Just lather, rinse, and repeat.

Because saying it DOES make it so, don't it?

Reporter to Mahatma Gandhi: What do you think of Western Civilization?
Gandhi to reporter: I think it would be a good idea.

Thanks VL for confirming that it's still opposite day in America

Once again, everything Hillary does is wrong and not helping Obama. Her campaign sucked, she sucks and she will continue to suck as long as The Village and Dean & Co. say so.

Interesting that they (Dean & Co.) don't see the obvious. If they didn't mention her name and focused on their candidate, they'd have a much better chance at success. How we define success is another story.

I love this job!

I love this job!

Somehow all progressive Dems are stark barking mad--even the

more centrist ones, like Gore, Kerry, Clinton. Sheesh. Step out of the Villagers' circle of thinking, and, ipso facto, a mad person.

MoDo wannabe "progressive" bloggers!

Ha. You got their number.

Wonderful

Also, interesting on the timing, that this stuff comes out before the convention so that the Chicago gang can go in looking like they are the tops. Edwards collapse seemed timely as well. ( I know...I know) but these things happen for a reason. He can pride himself in being the "clean one".

I'll play Bob Somerby here

…I approached a number of current and former Clinton staffers and outside consultants . . .

He approached "a number" but he doesn't say who and how many gave him anything.

From the way it's worded, it could all have come from one disgruntled person, like Patty Solis-Doyle.

And I'm sure there was lots more that what was published, but he still couldn't find a smouldering pea-shooter in the pile.

I didn't see any evidence of an effort to make race and issue either.

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How many emails/memos?

When I'm working on projects I can easily send and receive 25-50 subject specific emails a day. In 10 days that would be 250-500 just for me. Now I imagine that a presidential campaign has a good 5-10 "groups" (yeah, we know its probably much more), which means that there would be 1250-5000 emails every 10 days. This campaign went on 10+ months which is over 40 weeks. That would be about 50,000-200,000 emails. How many did the Atlantic use to draw their conclusions from?

They're not going to use any emails that disprove their thesis

I'm sure that made the selection process easy.

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I said from the beginning of the primary

that when the media was through taking Hillary down, they'd set their sights on Obama. I just didn't see at the time that they'd try to use Hillary for the purpose.
The groundwork is being set in the media to blame Hillary for Obama's upcoming loss. We know the Obamabots and 95% of the Liberal blogs have already started with this meme.

OxyCon

The media are thinking of 2012

Why settle for fucking up one election?

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wow, good catch

From the way it’s worded, it could all have come from one disgruntled person, like Patty Solis-Doyle.

approached a number, but didn't say how many responded. well done.

If You Had Told Any One of These Political Wise Men

or reporters that Hillary Clinton would win California, NY, OH, TX, MI, FL, MA, NJ, PA, and NH, they would've said she would win the nomination. It was only through gaming caucus states and the proportional representation system that Obama was even in a place to "win" it.

And let's please note again that Obama didn't win it. Neither of them did, so it was decided by SDs. Had the SDs gone the other way, which was within their right, he could be writing a piece about how the Obama campaign blew all the big states except Illinois. Something that should also worry Democrats for the fall is that, despite all the talk about Obama's vaunted turnout machine and new voters, in states where demographics didn't overwhelmingly favor him (e.g. states where he didn't start out with 30% of the vote because of AAs) and Hillary actually contested them (e.g. not Utah caucuses or places where she decided to go late), Obama lost almost every one except Iowa and his home state. He was not able to reproduce Iowa in NH or elsewhere. California is a good example, his late surge did him no good because Clinton had already banked the absentee vote and had locked down asians and hispanics.

But, of course, VL's right, the entire purpose of this piece is to re-write history as one where Obama didn't get weaker over time and didn't need SDs. He convincingly beat the inevitable favorite when her campaign collapsed due to her poor management (nevermind that the "poor management" claim seems mostly based on the fact that not all of her advisors agreed, quelle surprise, and that Mark Penn repeatedly encouraged her to run a more negative campaign and she didn't (see, she's "indecisive", you know how women are)).

And, of course, what will not be addressed is that for a woman who has been portrayed as Satan, these emails and memos (even Penn's, which are probably the most negative) are awfully tame for a hard-fought campaign. The reason for all the psychoanalyzing is that there isn't any NEWS in them. If there were you wouldn't need this bullshit telling you about the portrait they create, they'd simply quote the offending documents.

If this is the best you can do boys, it's pretty pathetic.

I keep going back to what DCBlogger said about how nobody seems to understand the more they stomp the Clintons, the stronger the Clintons get (I may have gotten it slightly wrong). This is an example why. The media are never content to criticize the Clintons for what they actually do, they have to overreach, which makes the media look worse than the Clintons. But come to think of it, the media are worse than the Clintons (and almost everybody else).

"Do what you feel in your heart to be right -- for you'll be criticized anyway. You'll be damned if you do, and damned if you don't. " - Eleanor Roosevelt

A lot of the crap in those memos is just crap

Some of it sounds like typical organizational stuff (This is a reminder that all pencil requisitions must go through X, please don't bother Y with these requests) and some of it sounds like bouncing ideas around (Let's build a time machine so we can go back and start over)

Everything didn't work perfectly as planned, so they had to regroup and make adjustments. They considered options they didn't use. BFD

I'm sure Obamanation has some similar emails that went around after New Hampshire, Super Tuesday, Rev. Wright, etc.

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“But hysteria is all the rage these days, I guess” - gqm

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I'd like to see...

I'd love to see the internal memos of the Obama campaign. Not. Really, the stuff that is written internally is usually disgusting stuff; that they "found" some of Clinton's really doesn't change anything, for me.

BTW, by:

...I approached a number of current and former Clinton staffers and outside consultants and asked them to share memos, e-mails, meeting minutes, diaries—anything that would offer a contemporaneous account.

did he really mean to write:

...I dug through the garbage at Clinton campaign headquarters, as well as the garbage of outside consultants, to find anything that would offer a contemporaneous account.

Oh yeah, or simply Patti Solis Doyle. lol BTW, I wonder if we're going to see an Atlantic expose on internal memos from Obama's campaign showing how brilliantly his campaign was run? Actually, I really don't wonder.

Q: If the witch is dead, why is The Atlantic trying to drown her?

A: Because they can.

But, we've always been at war with Eastasia...