Besides, I think the word we're all looking for is "post-partisanship"...

...for the rest of us

When Obama talks about post-partisanship or trans-partisanship, he means he wants to rise above that pernicious partisan divide between *liberal Democrats* who have the audacity to think for themselves and those fauxgressive Democrats who have acknowledged him as the deity that he is.

Worship him, Lambert. WORSHIP. HIM.

(And pay no mind as he continues to turn the Democratic Party into a clone of the GOP -- or else he'll send his flying O-bot monkeys after you.)

A friend of mine worried from Day One about how Obama's bipartisan post-partisan message weakened any argument for straight ticket voting and potentially hurt down ticket chances. If Obama's big strength is that party doesn't matter, then feel free to go ahead and send that GOP asshole to D.C. (or back to D.C.). Obama and he can unite and make the country great again. Bush was the only problem.

Along these same lines, Anglachel's got a post up about how McCain is slowly building his narrative of deeds over words, specifically that he's done things while Obama continues to mostly talk about himself or use that generic change and hope rather than speak to policy prescriptions.

And tying both of these things together is news that Obama apparently disinvited Wes Clark from the convention. As Anglachel asks, we have time to listen to Bob Casey, Jr. ramble about the sanctity of the unborn in primetime, but no time to listen to a decorated winning war general Wes Clark set out how the Democrats are better on National Security than the Republicans. To which my answer would be - dissing women brings Democrats and Republicans together, setting out an aggressive attack on GOP foreign policy would be divisive.

louder than "words, just words." I won't be voting for the man in November but I must tip my hat to him, last night he pulled a couple of good ones out of his .... hat. Real life events that portray the depth of his character and principles. Too bad he couldn't have found a way to work in regret for the Keating 5, that would have been a home run. I hate to say it but he looked genuine and I still fall for the "my friends". BO has some hard work ahead of him but, personally, I think he's done.

I love this job!

Maybe Bloomberg can put both names in a hat... and then let them both be president! There will be ponies on the barbie for sure!

I've got the scoop on that, VL - see here. I'm afraid I'm going to wake up one morning, and it will no longer be a dream...

Eight years of Bush's scorched-earth governing, and all that it accomplished was the final triumph of the Washington Consensus. If it's any consolation, I don't think that's what GWB and his handlers had in mind, either.

...for the rest of us

I hope Democratic women boo. That would teach them a lesson to treat us like brood mares.

Officially, there are no more Hillary people - that's not the Hillary people's fault, that's just the rules of the system at present, rules that really haven't changed that much in over 200 years.

Whaddyagonnado? As always, it comes down to three things - challenge the Democratic party internally ($$$, plus there are a lot of regular Democrats satisfied with how the system works at present), start a third party ($$$, plus there's the matter of overcoming the various legal and psychological barriers), or withdrawing from electoral politics and building the kinds of communities that can withstand the current political climate and eventually gain the strength to challenge it (which I fear most progressives lack the patience to do).

...for the rest of us

I see you used my line, Lambert. ;)

BTW, I got a kick out of seeing "Chicago-style" and "civil discussion" in the same sentence. There is no civil discussion in Chicago. In fact, there is no discussion, at all. There is Daley, and that is all Chicago shall ever need.

BTW Deux, from what I've read, Daley isn't particularly enamored with Obama, though his brother is. I kind of get the impression from all of the statements I saw him make during the primaries that he was supporting Obama much for the same reason Jessie Jackson was: Obama's from Chicago. Outside of that, Daley was quite kind in his words for the Clinton's, and was one of the rare folks not to go bat-shit crazy and hysterical by telling Hillary to get out of the race. In fact, he didn't mind Clinton running until she was blue in the face, because as he recalled, he was once the recipient of the "why won't the stupid dick quit?" call when he was running for mayor.

... is a problem for me.

[ ] Very tepidly voting for Obama [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

But, did I miss something? What was that in response to?

If that doesn't explain the problem with it for you, ask bringiton. I can't put it any more concisely than this:

A vote for McCain is not only an active endorsement of the last seven years' misgovernance, it's a welcoming invitation to four more years of the same misgovernment, malfeasance, and open cheating -- the complete disdain for all things not focused on crony enrichment in the shortest possible term -- I have come to loathe with a visceral, blistering disgust.

A vote for McCain is also a vote for the GOP in the downballot races and a dogwhistle to the far-right that, yes, in fact, progressives are stupid, lily-livered, foolish twits who'll give their obeisance on a whim -- as long as they get to chose the whim they give it on, or delude themselves into believing they have so chosen.

McCain is NOT the lesser of the two evils in this race.
That's all I have to remember.
Since I live in Texas my vote in the Presidential race is unlikely to matter; but my downballot choices can, and should, have an effect -- and I want it to be an effect of supporting the Democrats.

Some of the ones at the local levels still believe in the Democratic party platform more than they do in the Obama Obeisance Platform. I reckon I'm dinosaur enough to have their backs, if they're stubborn enough to try to stand up for the policies I've believed in all my life.

We can admit that we're killers ... but we're not going to kill today. That's all it takes! Knowing that we're not going to kill today! ~ Captain James T. Kirk, Stardate 3193.0