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I Learn Something New Every Day: Alice Palmer

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So there was some hoo-ha over the NV caucus process and the Hillbama people were calling each other nasty names and making all sorts of accusations. I came across this, somewhere in the middle of the pie-throwing:

The day after New Year's 1996, operatives for Barack Obama filed into a barren hearing room of the Chicago Board of Election Commissioners.

There they began the tedious process of challenging hundreds of signatures on the nominating petitions of state Sen. Alice Palmer, the longtime progressive activist from the city's South Side. And they kept challenging petitions until every one of Obama's four Democratic primary rivals was forced off the ballot.

Petition challenging progressives and South Siders: a Republican tactic.

I know the Chicago Way is rough, but that crosses a line. This made my blood boil:

"My conclusion was that if you couldn't run a successful petition drive, then that raised questions in terms of how effective a representative you were going to be."

Indeed, I can't comment because I don't trust myself not to launch into a tirade about house nigres. Anway, bottom line is that no Democrat should ever be involved in preventing other Democrats from having their choices be heard.
Right? We can all agree on that, can't we?

This took place before my time in the South Side, but I've seen up close what voting can be like there. Let me tell you about the time I went to vote, and found that somehow I had "already voted" as far as the nice lady taking my voter card for the first time was concerned....

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Submitted by lambert on

was on the order of, She butchered the process, so do we really want to elect her? Which is a bit chilly.

And now the OFB -- that is, the web aspect of the Obama campaign -- has charged both NH and NV are tainted, and neither charge has held up.

Nice way to piss in the well for the general, when 10-to-1 it's really going to happen.

[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

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I was struck how he completely removed all the competition, including those who didn't have a chance at being elected. At best, one would say Obama is insanely anal. However, only a bitter man who suffers from a wicked case of entitlement would go so far. What chance did a Marc Ewell have against a barrage of legal jujitsu?

...Obama's team was confident...and on Jan. 2, 1996, began the days-long hearings that would eliminate the other Democrats.

Little-known candidate Marc Ewell filed 1,286 names, but Obama's objections left him 86 short of the minimum, and election officials struck him from the ballot, records show.

No wonder Obama and his surrogates (Jesse Jackson, Jr., Axelrod, UNITE-HERE, etc.) are going batshit at the Clintons: this is the first competitive race he's ever been in. Wow. God help him if he's the nominee.

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Submitted by chicago dyke on

meanspirited and ungentlemanly. i suppose those are good qualities for a politician to have today, but still- she's a mature, respected member of the community who is almost guaranteed to stay put and work hard for *their* benefit. where is he now, and what has he done for them, lately? chasing the Brass Ring, that's where.

there are many avenues into politics, and obama already had several golden tickets. beating down an old lady, a couple of local marginals- oooh, what a man. i suppose he kicked some homeless people huddling for warmth outside the court building on the way to the suit. oh, that's right- he sent his legal minions to do his dirty work for him, he's a "constitutional" scholar and didn't dirty his hands.

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In the 2004 Democratic primary, Obama trailed multimillionaire businessman Blair Hull and Illinois Comptroller Dan Hynes as late as mid-February. Then, Hull's campaign imploded when it was revealed that an ex-wife had alleged in divorce papers that he had physically and verbally abused her. Hull ended up finishing third but I never saw anyone question the timing of how those allegations were publicized.

Then Republican Jack Ryan withdrew, following public disclosure of child custody divorce records containing sexual allegations by Ryan's ex-wife that were unsealed in court. How would the news get out if it were in a sealed court record? Who would know? Perhaps a reporter COUGHDAVIDAXELRODCOUGH might know about it.

The funny thing is that even before the allegations became public, Obama was in the lead Ryan. Clearly he favors a scorched earth approach in dealing with the competition.

Now why would anyone want to elect someone who can't play fairly?

Submitted by lambert on

I remember Jack Ryan well; it was my first Republican sex scandal!

The question is whether that gives Obama a comparative advantage over the other candidates. I'm guessing no. After all, we know how dirty the Clintons fight; the press and the OFB are constantly telling us so!

[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

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Submitted by chicago dyke on

my problem isn't "dirty" dem tactics. gosh, this is the age of Rove and evoting and hard core republican corruption, and i'm tired of losing! play "dirty," if it means a step in the direction of more progressive policy. i hate saying that, and ideally i never would. but eight years has made me Cynical. now is the time for Strong Democrats who know how to play the game. even, 'the Chicago Way.'

no, my problems is that "dem on dem" violence is bad. esp against nice older ladies who want to help the most poor and most oppressed. That Sucks. for many reasons. isn't it better to spend those resources, that money, on oppo against republicans? i guess not, but i can't really agree with that logic.

obama had *plenty* of opportunity to get into politics. if not one year, in another, if not this office, via a different one. what has he done for his former constituents, of late? that's my bottom line. i've not been back in a few months, but i'd be surprised if to learn the south side is "booming" in any way other than crime and despair.

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I cannot in all good conscience call myself a democrat, in four words

Paul Hackett Charles Schumer

Although I'll hold my nose and vote for the lesser of evils, that episode a few years back where Schumer pulled the rug from under truthsayer Hackett reminded me about the age-old and on-the-money aphorism about human behavior: power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely.

The episode reminded me of why I mistakenly decided, after the takedown of McGovern, that politics and my life had nothing to do with each other. It was, and continues to be, a fight to feel that my puny remarks and opinions will help bring about any slight counterforce to our species' seemingly unstoppable rush to oblivion. After all the immorality, war crimes, and uncaring greed for all these years, after its coming to a grand head under the idiot bush, after all the light that the internet has shed on the above, it is really, really disheartening to hear about business-as-usual Democrat-style again.

It's kinda like the realization that, though I've been a New York/San Francisco Giants fanatic ever since I became intrigued by baseball as a kid, the actual players could not give less of a shit about me or my life. Still, I gotta root for somebody, or otherwise how could I call myself a guy/an American/a social being?

Submitted by Avedon on

...what would have happened if someone had challenged Obama's petitions in the same way.

(BTW, if you've ever heard how Paul Hackett sounds when he subs for hosts on Air America for three hours a day for a week, you're kinda glad he didn't get that seat, even if Chuck Schmer is a complete jackass.)

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