How much of the campaign sexism is Obama's fault?

All or nearly all of the sexism examples from Melissa's Hillary sexism watch come from the media.

We've (mostly) all seen bullying of every sort, including gender-based, in the forums and blogosphere. But, now that sexism and misogyny are becoming among the hottest topics in this campaign, let's be scrupulous about how much can and can't be laid at the feet of Obama and his campaign.

Was the lack of outrage about the misogyny coming from others the worst of it, or are there things that came directly from the candidate or his organization that play a significant part in your perception (if you have that perception) that Obama practiced or leveraged gender-bashing politics?

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Tier I/Tier II

The way I see it is that the Obama campaign has mostly used dog whistles and then its supporters take it from there. Through use of the dog whistles, they not only failed to stop any of it, it encouraged it.

RL calls, so I don't have time for links, but I've been meaning to put together a timeline on Obama's attacks on Clinton and how they tie into stereotypes of powerful women. Even without that, I'd say note the following incidents of sexist dogwhistles that I can think of off the top of my head:

- Referring to the work Clinton did abroad as First Lady as having tea;
- Reducing Clinton to an appendage of her husband and comparing her to Michelle (I still hope Michelle kicked his ass for that one because it insulted both Hillary and his wife)
- Referring to "claws" coming out (instead of knives, which is how the saying actually goes)
- Senator Clinton, periodically when she's feeling down (lambert did a post)
- Jesse Jackson Jr. claiming Clinton cried in NH over criticism of her appearance
- Zbignew B., speaking for Obama about his experience, comparing Hillary to Mamie Eisenhower (this was documented on the Washington Note and I believe I posted video here that might have even made it into one of your posts, VL).

I would note Obama also has a history of using condescending terms for women challenging him, calling a reporter "sweetie" and a woman asking a hard question "feisty." He'd never use those with men. He later apologized to the Reporter by saying he calls lots of people sweetie. By people, of course, he means "women."

And then right after the Palin announcement, I think they tried the same thing with Biden noting the difference between him and Palin is that she's pretty (there's a Corrente post on that here by lambert). Which I might normally just chalk up to Biden being Biden if it weren't for the history of the primary.

So what I would say is that they do what campaigns often do on negative attacks, they encourage them without appearing to overtly embrace them. They did the same thing with the sexism. Only now it's coming back to bite them in the ass. The only bad thing is that somehow this is going to end up being the fault of feminists and women and not, you know, the sexist assholes behind the Obama campaign. And, yes, I've come to believe they are a lot of sexist assholes. I don't have a whole lot of reason not to at this point.

I look forward to your timeline.

I'm simpatico with what you've written thus far.

Re: the tea comment, I remember thinking at the time that if Clinton was off having tea with someone like Cherie Blair, for example, (another mere appendage of her powerful husband) a lawyer specializing in human rights and international relations, then a very strong argument could be made that that experience would be far superior in terms of foreign affairs understanding than Obama's years as a small child in Indonesia. It was not only insulting to Clinton and the range of international experience she has, but also insulting to all of the other influential, international figures that she dealt with as First Lady. Way to insult those people you're going to need to mend all those fences -- truly an example of the enormous judgment Obama would bring to foreign affairs.

JJ Jr. was actually much more explicit

in his comment. He said that Hillary didn't cry for Katrina. Obama never criticized him or demanded that he apologize for talking out of his ass about something he had no direct knowlegde.

Melissa doesn’t have Obama's hits?

You mean Melissa doesn't cover the "the claws come out," "when she's feeling low periodically," she's "throwing the china" at me, along with "the kitchen sink."??

These aren't mentioned? I have not read each and every Sexism Watch, alas.

Or the playing of that song about "got 99 problems but bitch ain't one"?

Or brushing stuff (lint? dandruff? bird droppings?) off his shoulder and then scraping something yucky off the bottom of his shoe?

She Has All Of Those

Or at least most of them. She has the claws and periodically, definitely. She also has the JJ, Jr. hit. If you go to her post today about the lipstick on a pig (she defends Obama on this one, but notes they've asked for it by all the other bullshit they've done and laments how much harder it's going to be for feminists to dig out from under the bullshit once these campaigns get done) it has a number of links she's done about Obama and his campaign specifically.

Gotta go.

I keep hearing that

The "99 problems" is a Repub lie, and I haven't seen proof that it actually happened.

Does anyone here know for sure?

I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.
- Thomas Jefferson

99 problems

See here.

The OFB said it's a lie. The NY Post, the source, stood by its story (I emailed and called them).

Re-reading the comment thread, I'd give a slight edge to the Post. The OFB keep yammering about videos, but after the OFB's doctored war room video (which happened after this event) we would have been foolish to trust them.

[ ] Very tepidly voting for Obama [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi

Mommy issues...

I think Obama has serious "mommy issues" that have resulted in a rather significant level of subconscious sexism and misogyny. And that comes out when Obama is off the teleprompter--he doesn't even know he's doing it.

But that is separate and distinct from Team Obama's leveraging of sexism during the primaries -- and now with the attacks on Palin. AFAIK, while Obama has said that "Palin's family" was off limits, he has never taken a strong and unequivocal stand against the sexism displayed by his supporters and the media. And considering the extent/prevalence of that sexism, the absence of strong opposition to it speaks volumes. (I mean, if blatant racism was the norm from McCain's supporters and the media, I think that McCain would make a point about condemning it. And certainly, Clinton did everything she could to signal that racism was not acceptable to her campaign....)

Mommy Issues, yep

See here.

I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.
- Thomas Jefferson

It's the fault of whoever's running the campaign, I would say

And since Obama's claiming the campaign as part of his executive experience, that makes these things his responsibility. Both Tier One and Tier Two, with the primaries and the general as a seamless continuum.

As always, 1. He doesn't slap down his supporters when they do it; people are so used to his reproofs being pro forma that it took reinforcement from Biden to get the blogs to back off on Palin's kids; and 2. He doesn't slap down the press when they do it.

I can't see that it would have been hard to do in the primaries, certainly, and it would have made Obama look good (at least to me). It would have shown leadership.

He doesn't do that, so he likes the results. And he is the nominee, so the tactics worked. Why would he stop what works? Expect more of it. My $0.02.

[ ] Very tepidly voting for Obama [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi

But is it still working?

He doesn’t do that, so he likes the results. And he is the nominee, so the tactics worked. Why would he stop what works? Expect more of it. My $0.02.
In the primaries - sure. It accomplished exactly what was needed from the Obama camp's perspective.
But now it seems the other side doesn't mind cranking up the volume a little. ISTM that Obama is on the defensive *again*, and talking about what a victim he is in all the nasty stuff the McCain camp is doing. And, IMO, this is winning him absolutely NO potential votes.
He looks whiny and reactive, back playing D again which seems to be the Democratic default position in these contests. And here:
This sounds weak
This just comes off as pathetic.
The OFB and those predisposed to enjoy sexist panderings are already on board. Not sure what'll happen if he keeps it up but it's my sense that you are correct - They just can't help themselves any longer.

Yep, I don't doubt for a second that

a phone call or two from Axelrod to Olbermann and Matthews early on could have put a stop to a lot of this, reigned in the OFB and ensured that the base would be united if he became the nominee. Instead, the constant media crap-a-palooza was free and effective. Imagine how many tens of millions of dollars it would have cost to have attack ads that accomplished what just MSNBC accomplished in terms of sexist attacks on Hillary.

Let's not forget Congressman Steve Cohen

and his comparison of Hillary Clinton to Glenn Close's character in Fatal Attraction. The complete and total lack of response from either the Obama campaign or any DNC member makes this a twofer for me -- the Democratic Party and Obama both share responsibility for this one.

Michelle's comment

that "If you can't run your own house, you can't run the White House." Aside from the fact that this comes from another woman -- can you imagine any man being held to such an explicit standard comparing how one runs one's household and how one runs the nation?

Paul's Distinction is Important

(Crossing fingers that the site lets me post)

I think it crucial to distinguish between the individual candidate and his alleged sexism, the campaign's leveraging of sexism in the primaries, and the response of the larger Democratic and/or Prog audience to misogyny in the public realm.

An individual candidate can be a total moral reprobate (or simply a garden variety casual sexist) and it is an issue only for that person. I honestly don't care about the condition of Obama's internal life. People can hold reprehensible beliefs and still manage to do the right thing when circumstances demand it.

The problem is the way the Obama campaign has woven misogyny into its standard operating procedure and the way in which its supporters are primed to praise it and use it in defense of the campaign.

The wider liberal audience cannot directly stop this from happening, so what matters is our response. Do we call it out? Do we refuse to excuse it? Do we use the ballot box to discipline those who would use these tools and methods for electoral gain? Going forward, how do we fight this battle?

Now that the left has legitimated the bipartisan use of misogyny as a political tactic, it cannot simply be put back in the inner psyche. We have a focus with the clueless and (increasingly) self-defeating behavior of Obama and his campaign, but the problem is bigger. It comes down to the fact that women are rivals of men for power and status on the left to a greater degree than any other demographic (noting that demographics are cross-cutting), and there are a lot of privileged men who are not happy at having their positions challenged so broadly (ahem).

The sexism was lying in the street for the Obama campaign to pick up and brandish.

Anglachel

Intra-Party Resentment

I think you're right and a lot of the sexism from Democrats is about a fight over power in the party. I think when guys like Rahm tell women that their pro-choice issues are why Democrats keep losing* or the repeated calls in the last few years for guys "strong on defense" and other manly men to run as Dem candidates (look at the Webb crush on a lot of blogs despite the fact that other than Iraq, he's not much of a progressive), it's about how much some of the Dem leaders resent having to keep women happy or at least appear to.** Republicans don't have to do that and I think a lot Dems envy them for it (which is one reason why they're always going after the GOP base, so much better than all those demanding women).

Women outnumber men in the Democratic party in terms of voters and Emily's List has grown to become an incredibly powerful PAC. If you look at primaries, when women candidates run, they have a very good record of winning (especially if they run against several men). The problem is that women often don't run. And that's just fine with a lot of Dem leaders.

* This is based on a story I heard from a donor at Emily's List. Not a single person in the audience, including Emily's List reps, defended Rahm. So I believe it to be true.

** The same thing applies to race. No one is more anxious to transcend race than white Democratic leaders. Having given African Americans Barack Obama, they will not feel the need to give them anything else. And every time AAs ask for anything, they're going to basically be told they got Obama.

That was the reason for the first schism at DKOS --

Women being told that they were weakening the party through their insistence on 'identity politics'.

Like being able to control whether one gives birth is a trivial issue.

The point is that women are finally trained enough as competitors to be the majority in Democratic politics, from election officials to ward heelers to top-shelf politicos, and the boys in the DNC don't want to have to become Republicans, to keep their not-so-little perks.

We thought it was class war, when it just might be gender war, which encompasses class war when we deal with the wage/job disparity. This is a fight for the soul of the Democratic Party, and they're willing to lose the election battle, to win the war.

Remember, the real prize is who's in power for redistricting efforts after the 2010 Census. Who stays in power now gets to pick who runs for Congress then....

And if Obama/Dems are holding the bag 2009-2010

they could be in trouble for a decade.

This doesn't play into my voting calculus at all, but some seem to think that the best thing to do is have Obama/Dems holding the bag to teach them a lesson.

It's a question of balance

0f course because sexism is really not so much to worry about, comparatively speaking.

If you think it is, or mention it more than 1/100,000,000,000 times more than how bad McCain-Palin will be, you are trying to end civilization and doom your children to eating roots in caves. On the other hand, if you just learn to forget all that silly stuff, the world will be saved by Obama.

Wise up!

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Samantha Power

She did not just call Hillary a monster. She said "just look at her ergh." Very revealing about the internal ethos of the Obama organization.

her--and her new hubby Sunstein--

are still big players in Obama's world, btw.

http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?r...

Sustein

is the one floated by the Obama campaign as his first SCOTUS nominee. Yikes! Calls himself a "minimalist" and says Roe was wrongly decided. But hey, I should vote with my uterus...

yup--ugh, entirely--

he's all for unlimited Executive power too.

a sexist pig talking about lipstick on a pig--

what's that psych term? transference?

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