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Horse race: If the Republicans are "the party of stupid" (and crazy) then how come they're doing so well in the polls?

Business Insider:

The Republican Party is at its strongest point in two decades heading into midterm elections, according to a new Pew Research-USA Today poll, the latest daunting sign for Democrats ahead of campaign season.

According to the poll, out Monday, Republicans have a 47-43 lead on the generic congressional ballot. That's a 10-point swing from October, when Democrats, boosted by GOP blame for the federal government shutdown, held a 6-point lead in the Pew poll.  ...

Overall, Democrats are plagued by the still-sluggish economy, the unpopularity of the Affordable Care Act, and the undesirable views of President Obama. More voters (26%) say their vote will be "against" the president. Only 16% say their vote will be "for" Obama. And by more than a 2-to-1 margin, voters say they want the next president to pursue policies different from the Obama administration's priorities. 

No doubt!

As has been seen in other polls showing trouble for Democrats this year, the party is hampered by a lack of enthusiasm. For example, only 31% of Democratic voters say their vote is "for" Obama. In 2010, that number was 47%. 

Well, that's what we get with a system that throws up disposable mediocrities. Bush, too.

Some of the other troubling signs for Democrats:

  • Obama's approval rating sits at 44%, compared with 50% who disapprove.
  • Although last Friday's jobs report showed the unemployment rate dropping to its lowest level since 2008, most people (65%) say jobs are still difficult to find. And while 25% of voters think the economy will get better next year, about an equal number think it'll get worse.
  • The percentage of voters who disapprove of the Affordable Care Act (55%) is still tied for the highest in the law's history, despite lots of recent good news.

...Overall, it looks as if Republicans are poised for a stronger campaign than their gains in 2010. But it does not appear that they will have gains on par with the Democratic Party in 2006,

My advice to the Democrats: Stop sucking!

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Submitted by McDee on

The Repubs took a hit with the government shutdown. There seemed to be rampant joy among some Obots and Dem operatives about 2014. I read accounts of how the "party of stupid and crazy" was to take a beating in the mid terms.

Then the shutdown ended and things returned to what passes for normal and the Dems are again seen as not delivering anything. The base is demoralized and demotivated.
The repubs will probably do quite well this fall. And there will be wailing and gnashing of teeth from the Obots and Dem operatives.

When that happens they need to remember 2009. Obama took office after a solid repudiation of Bush and McCain. The Dems had the Presidency, both houses of Congress and a mandate.

Had they done anything, a decent jobs program, stimulus, a Medicare for All type of health plan, eg, they wouldn't be worrying about the midterms. They could have confined the Repubs to the Old Confederacy and the Mountain West for decades maybe.

But they blew it. And they will pay. And they deserve to. They are Useless!

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Submitted by mellon on

>Had they done anything, a decent jobs program, stimulus, a Medicare for All type of health plan, eg, they wouldn't be worrying about the midterms.

The US has devoted a huge amount of energy to forcing other countries to sign trade agreements like GATS, NAFTA, CAFTA, and now TPP, (which cover services) that have 'standstill' clauses which prohibit 'members' (signatory countries including us) from starting any new public services after they sign these trade agreements.

The reason is that the European countries had public healthcare and the way they saved and continue to save money on drugs and dont need US companies insurance bothers the US tremendously.

>They could have confined the Repubs to the Old Confederacy and the Mountain West for decades maybe.

They can't. They both are obsessed with preventing public health care and savings on drugs in particular. thats why the drug companies and insurance companies supported Obama. They didn't do that for free.

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Submitted by mellon on

>But they blew it. And they will pay. And they deserve to. They are Useless!

That may be the whole idea.. If Barack Obama's job was to rebuild the Republican brand after the Bush fiasco, he's doing a great job.

Also, there are BIG problems with a lot of voting machines.

For example, the situation in NJ is truly horrible. The state of NJ apparently was told about it at least ten years ago, before they bought the voting machines at issue, but they bought them anyway.

Submitted by Dromaius on

I love the focus on "how many are insured." Gee, people have to get insurance or they pay a penalty. It isn't voluntary. If it WAS voluntary, that insured number would mean a lot. And I'd like to know how many are taking advantage (like I am) of the "I had good insurance but you took it from me and now you're leaving me with insurance not worth buying" exemption. Nobody asks that question. Wonder why.

Done venting. Back to quilting.

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Submitted by mellon on

Real people aren't involved in these conversations. If they try to participate they get drowned out. Both sides of the conversations on many blogs are the same people, pretending to be as many as 90 people per paid sockpuppet. That way they can make sure the "public response" is the desired one.

No real democracy is involved at all. If any real dialogue is involved they have to blot it out as best as they can ("drownvoting")


Submitted by Dromaius on

Oh I know about sock puppets. This isn't my first time at that political rodeo ;-). I used to go to Daily Kos!

Believe it or not the sock puppets are rampant even on the quilting forums (my respite from the politics nightmare). It's kind of amazing to see.

Submitted by lambert on

It makes a connection between the tropes and talking points and rhetorical device we use tht is far more fine-grained than class. Thank you.

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Submitted by quixote on

And nobody is showing party affiliations on campaign posters.

That's not just for the nonpartisan Municipal Dogcatcher kind of offices, either. That's the roadside posters for those campaigning to become US Congresscritters. (I don't have a TV, so I don't know what's going on there.)

This is not-far-from-Hollywood southern California. Repubs are pretty unpopular so they've tended to downplay who they are lately. But the really funny thing is watching all the Dems now also running from their party as fast as they can.

You'd think this would be fertile ground for a 3rd party. But only the Greens were really big enough, and everybody I talk to is still furious with them over the 2000 election so they're now on a par with the Peace and Workers or Whatever Party.

So here we are. A bunch of liars saying, "Who, me? Party? Never! I'm independent, bi-partisan, get-things-done, end-the-gridlock kind of guy." (And they do all seem to be guys.)

And that's the other funny thing. "End the gridlock" apparently polls well. But nobody, me included, actually wants Congress to accomplish any of the crap high on the corporate or fundie agendas.

What a circus. Except it's not funny.

Submitted by lambert on

... an all-Democratic primary, and Democrats dominate CA now, yes?

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As for the Greens and 2000, the "308,000 Florida Democrats voted for Bush" is the best riposte to "But Nader ZOMG!!!" that I've heard; I've been testing it on FaceBook.

That said, the Greens, too, need to move beyond Nader. There is far too much angsting about 14-year-old events in the Green community, at least the part that I see.