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Hilarity at Kos: [a|the] [strong|robust]? [Federalist]? [health insurance]? [option|plan] never clearly defined

Knock me over with a feather. Anyhow, front-paged:

[I]n August at Netroots Nation when I asked progressive strategists and activists to think ahead to the end game, and about what our reaction ought to be when Members who'd apparently pledged to oppose any bill without a "robust" public option claimed they needed the latitude to do some other thing, ranging all the way up to... doing the exact opposite of that.

To some extent, this is a function of there being no universally accepted definition of either the public option or what it means for one to be "robust," at least not at the time that the pledges were solicited and the letter was signed. But there can be no doubt about the intent of those efforts. It was quite obviously an early effort to guard against public declarations like McGovern's, and to at least preserve the plausibility of the claim that the Progressive Caucus was in a position to demand concessions the way Blue Dogs always have been.

Single payer advocates pointed out at the time that it was useless to get people to pledge to a policy that wasn't defined, and were derided for their pains.

Lessons learned? Who knows? I doubt it. "Progressives" have managed to identify their brand, and their own personal brands, with a policy FAIL. As usual in Versailles, the only way forward will be to double down.

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CD, because she's a nicer person than I am, says the same thing with more different words.

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Submitted by gmanedit on

The hardest thing to say is "I was wrong."

The threads at Open Left are fascinating. I don't even have to read your comments anymore, because you keep repeating yourself—because Bowers et al. refuse to engage with Kip Sullivan's critique, even when you changed from "bait and switch" to "banana." It's all about them and their hurt feelings. Selise at various sites goes out of her way to be humble and can't get meaningful engagement. It seems to come down to whether people's priority is health care or the Democratic Party. And they are fooling themselves if they think this disaster is going to be good for the party.

Submitted by lambert on

... is one of the laws of meme propagation. These things happen collectively, but if you go through threads that aren't populated by wannabe insiders like at OL, and hence are really, really pissed off, you'll see plenty of language that was honed here. That's my purpose over there. If Bowers et al. are persuadable, I've given them a fair shot. If not, my goal was never to persuade individuals, but only to move the discourse along, which I have done.

UPDATE Another one. Single payer unpersons stage sit-in at Independence Hall in Philly.

UPDATE Fascinatingly, this "Quick Hit" above to the Daily News article seems to have disappeared from OL; all that appears is a grey screen. At some point, before concluding the OL has sunk to outright censorship from silencing and shunning, I'll repost it.