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The current squeeze on Gaza began in 1991. It was tightened with the institutionalization of the Israeli occupation enabled by the Oslo Accords of 1993. It was tightened further with the intensification of the occupation in response to the second intifada in 2000. It was tightened further still when Israel redeployed its settlers and troops from inside Gaza in 2005 and transformed the territory into what John Dugard, the UN's special rapporteur on human rights in the occupied territories, referred to as a prison, the key to which, Dugard said, Israel had "thrown away." It was tightened to the point of strangulation following the Hamas electoral victory in 2006, when Israel began restricting supplies of food and other resources into Gaza. It was tightened beyond the point of strangulation following the deposition of the Hamas-led government in June 2007. And now this. Link
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there are no heroes in this debacle
[hey xeno; 'sup?]
It would be so much easier to see one group as “right” and another as “wrong” but that is not the case. On all sides, Israel as much as Hamas and the PLO, the US and the Arab countries and the Persians and the Russians, the commitment is to continuation of conflict. Every leadership group in every engaged nation depends on maintaining a regional policy of death and destruction, while nowhere is there a viable movement that leads to peace and prosperity.
Everyone involved has blood on their hands. Until some greater power imposes a solution the conflict will continue, with nothing for the mass of people but suffering and pain and despair. The whole world should be ashamed.
After eight years of malign disengagement from BushCo on top of years of distracted neglect by Clinton, the US has abdicated any pretense at the moral high ground and our current involvement is only to supply weapons and money to the Israelis while the Palestinians are left to starve. The US government is seen as so wholly impotent, morally bankrupt and unable to engage that the last time Condi Rice came to Tel Aviv she couldn’t get a hotel room much less an appointment with anyone in charge - on either side. Except as a supplier of death and destruction we have been completely marginalized, and that will only lead to our further humiliation on the international stage and reduce our ability to be a force for good.
Obama has a lot on his plate, but withal this is an issue he needs to engage and sooner rather than later. Like the Balkans and Northern Ireland, both areas of seemingly intractable multi-generational conflict that have been largely resolved through cooperative international pressure focused on imposing a settlement on the local participants, this kind of brutality cannot be allowed to continue. The long-term cost to the prospects of the world as a whole far exceeds the short-term expense of an enforced settlement.
Israel is a Liability we can ill afford
While the people of Israel are of one mind the apartheid government's position is quite another.
Let us remeber that the position of Israel's government was to:
How did they do this? By shutting down the Palestinian government with a siege.
And then claiming that
Because the Palestinian government was ineffective. (Well lift the Siege and we'll see)I think Israel has gone too far. If they want to go out there and establish themselves as the Don of the middle east go ahead - "The strong do what they will ..." I just don't think we should support them. Espesically when they are dead wrong.
It's not like we haven't been down this road before. Israel's pipe dream lead us into Iraq remeber this?
It's time we parted company with Israel, they have become a liability. Now they are exacerbating problems in the muslim world
We've been used for cover, too.
Folks also need to realize that Israel doesn't need us, like they continue to peddle, for their imminent survival, anymore. They got a disproportionately huge and developed/highly-advanced army for their size capable of taking on nations much larger in size. People need to wake-up to the fact that we (the US) are being used to legitimize the military exploits. They aren't anymore our friends than the Palestinians and never were. We've always been used as the fall guy so that they won't receive all of the criticism they deserve for their actions. Israel is more than capable of defending its interests, and has been for many years, now.
Amazingly, we continue to subsidize their army to the tune of $2-fuckin'-billion dollars every year, even since they've long since became a military power of their own. Even more amazingly, given Obama's former stance on the Levant issue (he was much more objective than he is, now), he's taken sides.
To call that situation a cover is actually being rather nice. It's a course to any who get involved in it in a militaristic way.
But, we've always been at war with Eastasia...
According to Condi Rice, we already have
and any day now, everything is going to work out just fine for those Palestinians:
IIRC Obama meetings with Netanyahu were cordial but Obama was cool to the obvious ploys advanced by the Israeli and pressed instead for talks leading to a viable Palestinian state. I don't agree that we should disengage from either side, but we do need to shift the focus from conflict to resolution. Who knows, at this point, what Obama may actually intend but I'm suspicious that perhaps this unjustified offensive is being conducted now because there are concerns within the Israeli leadership that once Obama is in office the opportunity to assault the Palestinians without consequence will be diminished.
I sure hope you're right
And, I was talking about disengaging, entirely, but definitely militarily. That means to completely stop our subsidization of the IDF.
As for the "two-state solution", it sounds great, but I think the Israeli's realize that they don't really have any incentive to seek it out. I think they realize what a bunch of us realize, and that is that even if there are two states that both agree to, you've still got the issue of the Arabs who live in Israel that make up more than 20% of the Israeli population (not counting the territories) and are the fastest growing segment. Even if there are two states, the real problem is that it's still "seperate but equal" and that the vast majority of Arabs in Israel aren't leaving, regardless.
The issue that no one ever speaks about is that Arab Israeli's will eventually make up a majority of the Israeli population. Israel long-term problem is going to be what happens when the Israeli Jews find themselves the minority in their own Jewish state? The problem with Israel has always been that's its an apartheid "Jewish state" as opposed to a state in which Jews lived. The "Jewish state" is unsustainable, and they know it. I'm dreading the day when they decided whether they'll allow democracy to run its course, of if they are going to violently cling to an apartheid state.
Jewish Israeli's deny it up-and-down and all day long, but their Arab countrymen are not treated the same under their law, and culturally, they are most definitely seena and treated as second-class citizens and even worse, as foreigners. Hell, even the "white" Ashkenazi Jews treat the native Mizrahi Jews like second-class Jews, but they will never admit the copious amounts of racism that shape Israeli society. I never quite understood it.
But, we've always been at war with Eastasia...
they've shut journalists out now too --
(sure.)
"The way to secure Israel is not to firebomb ..."
some great posts by Ezra Klein --
Fear --
Need --
Israel, Wrong --
Barak quotes Barack in Knesset, & "bodies for votes" --
Haaretz -- Barak: We'll use every resource to stop 'criminal' rocket fire from Gaza --
OMG
Ten days before they started bombing Gaza Ehud Barak
LinkSpeaking at a conference of the Institute for National Security Studies at Tel Aviv University, the defense minister said the world should press Iran to stop it from building nuclear weapons.
Six Months before this attack a "SIGNIFICANT EXERCISE" was held by Israel.
While at the same time Israel was planning to bomb Gaza.Israel rams aid ship --
Rammed boat
I saw the "after" pictures of the boat, and it was no way they were rammed by accident. That is absolutely insulting for them to try and portray it as such. As Xenophone said, blockades are acts of war, and this is one of the most greivous injustices in the whole situation is the blockade. They are making it so that there is no possible way that the leadership can provide for an environment in which a mainstream economy can thrive, and minus that, you're essentially helping recruit people for Hamas. The blockade is such an incredibly backwards move it kind of just shows you how genuinely the Israeli leadership is in finding a lasting peace. That is, no genuine at all.
But, we've always been at war with Eastasia...
90% of all products come thru tunnels from Eqypt --
Bloomberg -- Gaza Tunnels to Egypt for IPods, Viagra Foil Blockade