Gay-hating Episcopalian schismatics don't get to take the church keys with them when they split
Well--and of course, it's never about the money--they don't get to break away from the Church and take the buildings with them, because the buildings (duh) belong to the Diocese. LA Times:
In a victory for the Episcopal Diocese of Los Angeles, a state appeals panel has upheld the diocese's claim to the buildings and other property of three conservative parishes that had severed their ties with the diocese.
The unanimous decision by a panel of the appeals court in Santa Ana reversed lower court rulings in the case, which involves St. James Church in Newport Beach, All Saints Church in Long Beach and St. David's Church in North Hollywood.
The ruling was reached late Monday by a three-judge panel of the 4th District Court of Appeal.
In August 2004, the dissident parishes pulled out of the six-county Los Angeles Diocese and the 2.3-million-member Episcopal Church, citing differences over biblical interpretation, including what they described as the diocese's too-lenient views on homosexuality. Instead, they placed themselves under the jurisdiction of a conservative Anglican bishop in Uganda.
The Los Angeles Diocese sued, arguing that the parishes held their church buildings in trust for the diocese and the national Episcopal Church and thus were not entitled to the property. An Orange County trial judge, in separate decisions, had ruled in favor of the parishes.
Good. And anything that makes life harder for these assholes is good. These people should check their Bibles and look in their hearts, if any. Luke 7:36-47:
36And one of the Pharisees desired him that he would eat with him. And he went into the Pharisee's house, and sat down to meat.
37 And, behold, a woman in the city, which was a sinner, when she knew that Jesus sat at meat in the Pharisee's house, brought an alabaster box of ointment,
38 And stood at his feet behind him weeping, and began to wash his feet with tears, and did wipe them with the hairs of her head, and kissed his feet, and anointed them with the ointment.
39 Now when the Pharisee which had bidden him saw it, he spake within himself, saying, This man, if he were a prophet, would have known who and what manner of woman this is that toucheth him: for she is a sinner.
40 And Jesus answering said unto him, Simon, I have somewhat to say unto thee. And he saith, Master, say on.
41 There was a certain creditor which had two debtors: the one owed five hundred pence, and the other fifty.
42 And when they had nothing to pay, he frankly forgave them both. Tell me therefore, which of them will love him most?
43 Simon answered and said, I suppose that he, to whom he forgave most. And he said unto him, Thou hast rightly judged.
44 And he turned to the woman, and said unto Simon, Seest thou this woman? I entered into thine house, thou gavest me no water for my feet: but she hath washed my feet with tears, and wiped them with the hairs of her head.
45 Thou gavest me no kiss: but this woman since the time I came in hath not ceased to kiss my feet.
46 My head with oil thou didst not anoint: but this woman hath anointed my feet with ointment.
47 Wherefore I say unto thee, Her sins, which are many, are forgiven; for she loved much: but to whom little is forgiven, the same loveth little.
Even if it were a sin to be gay, Christians who aren't filled with hate should--must--welcome gays into their churches, just like Jesus would.
And if they haven't studied the Book of Haggard, they can study Luke 18:9-14:
9 And he spake this parable unto certain which trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others:
10 Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.
11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.
12 I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.
13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.
14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.
We get entirely too much "I thank God that I am not like other men" from the Christianists. Jesus would speak against them, and I'm sick of it.
It's always been about the hate with these people, and as usual with Christianists and Republicans, you can tell by the shifting rationalizations.
Back in the days of Stonewall, gays were to be hated because of promiscuity. Well, now it turns out that for some, promiscuity hasn't worked out too well, and they want to get married. Well, rather than let gays do that for which they were previously hated for not doing--and rather than even be in the same building, let alone sit down to dinner with them, as Jesus would have done--the Scaife-funded Christianists will split the Church and outsource their pastoral care (to pastors who won't sit them down and tell them to work on their own issues first, note well.)
I say, good riddance to them. The Christianists are the same ones who want the 1929 Prayer Book back (and the new Prayer Book is beautiful). They are the same ones who resisted having women priests (and they should be fucking proud to have women priests). And now they want to split the Church on the shoddy theological basis of a few ginned up passages from Leviticus and a whole passle of suppressed hate.
Don't let the Church door hit you on the way out, say I.
NOTE Let's all remember the conservative definition of Hate: Being held accountable.
UPDATE Following the great winger tradition of using one lunatic comment as indicative of an entire movement, from the so-called Anglican board linked to above:
As has been detailed many times, the homosexual is so tied up in what they do, that they cannot separate it from who they are as a person. It is no different than a person in a job for 40 years whose entire identity is what he does for a living. When they retire, they no longer have an identity, and many die shortly thereafter as they no longer see a purpose for living.
Words fail me. I guess if it isn't Teh Hate, it's Teh Banality...
UPDATE And I just love the buried phallocentric metaphor of Stand Firm in Faith. I doubt they're even aware of it...