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Ezra on single payer: Let's you and Senator Baucus fight

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Health Care Reform Panel Discussion at Netroots Nation

All of the speakers described the abuses of the insurance industry with conviction and passion. Ezra Klein cautioned the audience of Single Payer supporters that the Senate was designed from its inception to preserve status quo, and it is doing its job brilliantly today. It is difficult to push through transformative change in the Senate because of its committee structure. “I am not your enemy,” Klein stated. “The Senate is your enemy. Max Baucus is your enemy. Unless we either remove or motivate Baucus [the powerful chairman of Senate Finance] serious change will never occur.”

“There is only one way to motivate Baucus to help us,” asserted Klein. “Elect progressives to the Senate.”

Create a raucous anti-Baucas Caucus.

Either Ezra Klein is exceptionally brave, or he likes roasting on a spit. .

I am trying to work out why Baucas is in such a position to do us harm. Baucus is not a member of the Senate HELP Committee, so he can't bottle it up in committee. Moreoever, three members of the Committee, Kennedy, Brown, and Saunders, are all on record as supporting single payer. Kennedy is the Chair, if he holds firm to his position (and I am worried about that) then we are certain to get a bill out of committee, particularly if the House passes it first. Remember, we already have 91 cosponsors in the House, that is a great deal of serious political muscle. So I think Ezra needs to explain how Baucus, who is not member of the committee with jurisdiction, can block this more than any other Senator.

We passed sanctions against South Africa with a Republican President and a Republican Senate. If we start worrying about personalities we will never get anywhere.

But I started to look into Montana politics. I can't find a pro-single payer website for Montana activists, but the Montana AFL-CIO has endorsed single payer.

There is only one congressman from Montana, the the Democratic Candidate does not look very promising.

The new group, Montanans for Health Care appears to be the state chapter of HCAN't.

Anyone from Montana in the Mighty Corrente Building?

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Submitted by lambert on

I think DCB makes a good point:

We passed sanctions against South Africa with a Republican President and a Republican Senate. If we start worrying about personalities we will never get anywhere.

There's no point in negotiating with ourselves and giving in before we've even tried, like HCAN't wants to do.

[ ] Very tepidly voting for Obama [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win. -- Mahatma Gandhi

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Submitted by Sarah on

It's like being the ultimate legislative ninja.

Stop the money, and the problem goes away.

This, btw, is why we need better Dems -- not just more people with (D) after their names -- in the House and the Senate.

A savvy Congress of dedicated progressives could have forced KKKarl and the rest of the White House cabal to testify instead of letting them thumb their noses at subpoenas.

How?

Cut off the money for Exec programs -- up to and including the money to pay the lights in the White House -- with a veto-proof majority, effective rightthehellnow.

Instead we get "unity".

We can admit that we're killers ... but we're not going to kill today. That's all it takes! Knowing that we're not going to kill today! ~ Captain James T. Kirk, Stardate 3193.0


We can admit that we’re killers … but we’re not going to kill today. That’s all it takes! ~ Captain James T. Kirk, Stardate 3193.0

1 John 4:18

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Submitted by DCblogger on

I will have to reread HR 676 again, but if the funding mechanism is in the bill, I am not sure it would have to go through finance. And even if it does, it may be that Baucus would be content to vote against it rather than stop it.

If many of our single payer challengers win, if we can recruit additional sponsors, this could pass.

and the more I think about it, the more I think personalizing it with an anti-Baucus caucus would doom us. The senate is collegial, making this about Baucus would backfire. In any case it isn't about Baucus, it is about healthcare.

I will have to take another look at the finance committee, it does not look promising, but we need to look at it.

Submitted by lambert on

It does seem that a lot of PB 1.0 was about attacking individuals. Now, sometimes that's good clean fun -- especially when it's a good story -- but can that strategy really be said to have been all that effective? See under Lieberman, (I-CT).

I think you're right, DCB. Sounds like Ygles EzraMR SUBLIMINAL Ezmatt. Like Hazmat. Or as the lolcats would say Haz mat? was giving -- what a surprise -- bad advice to a cause he isn't all that committed to. That boy's learning Village mores fast!

[ ] Very tepidly voting for Obama [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win. -- Mahatma Gandhi

Submitted by lambert on

... makes it hard to distinguish them.

[ ] Very tepidly voting for Obama [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win. -- Mahatma Gandhi

Submitted by lambert on

on the headline.

You're gonna have to learn your clichés...

[ ] Very tepidly voting for Obama [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win. -- Mahatma Gandhi

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Submitted by DCblogger on

yours is much better
really, you have a gift