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I’ve diligently read the posts here at the Mighty Corrente Building regarding Senators Clinton and Obama over the last months. And, until now, I’ve kept my trap shut. Please allow me to open it once again and say, “Enough!”

My preferred Democratic candidates: Kucinich, Richardson, Biden and Edwards, dropped out of the race long ago. Between Clinton and Obama, I can’t say that I have a definitive preference.

What mystifies me is that the many Progressives here that once touted the virtues of John Edwards have radically swung to the center to support Senator Clinton.

Is it that someone bet on the wrong horse (pony)?

So the solution, it seems, has become – “I just won’t vote.” “I’m withdrawing my registration as a Democrat.” Go ahead. Hold your breath and stomp your feet because you aren’t getting everything you want in a candidate.

No matter how the nomination goes – just about half of the Democratic Party is going to be pissed off (thank you David Axelrod, Howard Wolfson, Mark Penn – Karl Rove must be so proud). And if only half of them decide to protest by not voting, please allow me to introduce President John McCain.

Yes, your protests will be heard.

And it will sound like a tree in the woods falling…

On the bright side, we’ll all have plenty to bitch (blog) about for another four years.

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Submitted by DCblogger on

So the solution, it seems, has become – “I just won’t vote.” “I’m withdrawing my registration as a Democrat.”

I must have missed that post.

It seems to me I saw one post endorsing Obama.

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Submitted by corinne on

That may have been a reference to Chris Bowers stamping his foot and threatening to leave the Democratic Party if the superdelegates end up deciding the nominee:

If that institution fails to respect democratic principles in its most important internal contest of all--nominating an individual for President of the United States--then I will quit the Democratic Party. And yes, I am perfectly serious about this.

Whatever.

Submitted by cg.eye on

"Between Clinton and Obama, I can’t say that I have a definitive preference.

What mystifies me is that the many Progressives here that once touted the virtues of John Edwards have radically swung to the center to support Senator Clinton.

Is it that someone bet on the wrong horse (pony)? "

So, a) you say have no definite preference, b) but others might support Senator Clinton, and c) possibly, because someone either supported Edwards or supports Clinton now, someone has bet on the wrong horse?

If that wrong horse is Clinton, then the right one is Obama?

Please say what you mean more clearly -- and state what type of supporter you believe will forego voting if their candidate does not win the nomination. If you said that at the forefront -- that Democrats who fail to vote will allow the Republicans to win again -- I'd agree with you. But I believe you do have a point of view, if stated very obliquely, and a candidate you at least disdain more. This isn't a time for coyness.

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Submitted by vastleft on

Shane-O, how many Correntians have said we're not voting for the Dem in November?

And what am I to make of this?

"Is it that someone bet on the wrong horse (pony)?"

I can think of a lot of things it might mean, and none of them either fair or accurate. Please explain before I pounce on you for perhaps a misinterpretation of how you meant it.

Submitted by lambert on

Contributors just need to be slapped around until they see sense ;-)

[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

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Submitted by bystander on

What is the sense a contributer would see if they were slapped? Or, would a contributer need to be slapped senseless before they could see? Or, how senseless would a contributer have to be so that slapping them would make them sensible? [yes. i'm kidding around.]

For the record. I'm perfectly willing to vote FOR any Democrat to keep ANY Republican out of the White House. Even if I don't happen to like the particular Democrat. Things could indeed be worse than they are.

Submitted by lambert on

... "slapped around."

I mean to say "tasered"... Ouch!

[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

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Submitted by lutton on

>>I must have missed that post.

yup:

Thats it for me..my time has come. Today, I proudly went and changed my voter registration from Democrat to Independant. I can’t tell you yet how I will vote in the Fall, but I honestly cannot see myself voting for Obama.

and:

If and when Barack Obama wins the Democratic nomination, it will be, ironically, the death of hope for me.

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Submitted by DCblogger on

well that post put it a little strongly, but someone can kill hope and you can still vote for them, I know, I voted for someone like that in 2006.

As for changing voter reg, well the OFB has alienated many Dems, I am hoping they can be brought back in the course of the general.

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Submitted by vastleft on

Please feel free to raid my archives over the last two years and find the posts where I've said I won't vote for the Dem in 2008.

You'll find about 1,000 times I've been pissed on by commenters for espousing "more and better Democrats," and a few dozen times where I've specifically avowed that I will swallow my objections and pride (being one of those dreaded bickering pro-Civil Rights/Women's Rights/Gay Rights Baby Boomers of the 1960s and 1990s who caused at least half of our country's problems) and vote for Obama if he's our nominee.

Even though Obama's dismal, truthy, and retrograde campaign offers me no hope, I still pledge him my vote. Sorry if that's not good enough for you.

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Submitted by lutton on

the 'death of hope' is just too dramatic. You'll never, ever have hope again? Ever? Okay...

And then someone turns around and says basically 'it's not us, but Chris Bowers having a temper tantrum.'

I'm merely pointing out that I agreed with Shane-O's point (at least as I saw it): That the expressions of disappointment and regret seem exaggerated and divisive.

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Submitted by vastleft on

... the national agenda after your country has been absolutely defiled for years doesn't kill your hope. But it does a number on mine.

And, once again, anyone who harshes the mellow in Happy Valley is labeled "divisive." Question for you, Lutton, how many times in the past year have you criticized Hillary bashers for being "divisive"?

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Submitted by markg8 on

Do not go to sleep. There are pickup trucks with pods in the back roaming your neighborhoods just waiting for you to nod off. Just waiting, just waiting...

Submitted by lambert on

Thank you for commenting, markg8. Your comment is important to us. Please do not hesitate to comment again.

[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

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Submitted by koshembos on

Obama is likely to win the nomination. His campaign, the pretend lefties and the media have created an unacceptable hate tsunami against Hillary. This hate is not much different than the KKK's hate of African American.

Yet, we may be totally wrong about Obama; he may turn out to be a decent president. He is a Democrat; we must vote for him.