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Political Wire headline:

Rice Headed to United Nations

Turns out it's Dr. Susan Rice.

A good appointment or bad?

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amberglow's picture
Submitted by amberglow on

but not especially good.

they had to put her somewhere outside of State if it was gonna be Hillary, so i guess this is what she gets.

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Submitted by coyotecreek on

Isn't she the one with the loose lips during the campaign who "surprised" everyone (well, not all of us!) with Obama's real NAFTA position?

So, I'd say not a good selection. She should have been put out to pasture and left there.

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Submitted by coyotecreek on

also deny that Obama planned to withdraw troops in Iraq? I seem to remember something that she said - other than that HRC was a monster.

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Submitted by amberglow on

of course it would be dependent on conditions on the ground and what the military said, bla bla bla--which is Gates/Pentagon and Bush's current stance---and is Obama's position as well.

She walked him back without him telling her to, apparently, and disappeared from tv for a while. She was right tho--just like Goolsbee was accurately describing Obama's lies about NAFTA.

and it's still only about "combat troops" being withdrawn--and sent right to Afghanistan. (that's 1/2 or less of our current troop amounts in Iraq)

Goolsbee's loose lips were worse than Rice's--and he just got appointed, so she will too.

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Submitted by caseyOR on

The first rumor I heard was Caroline Kennedy for the UN position. At least Susan Rice has some foreign policy experience. I do wonder where they've stashed Samantha Power. Power's remarks about Hillary were pretty nasty, but her work on genocide is first-rate. While she apparently lacks the temperament for diplomatic work, Power does have good things to bring to the foreign policy table.

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Submitted by amberglow on

it's outside of State and the WH and Defense/Pentagon--has that post ever been one where the person could help form policy--or is it always only about pushing policies/interests created in DC?

Bolton never was the public face for Iraq or had a part in creating the whole thing, for instance--Bush and Powell and Rice/State were, and they were the ones selling it to other countries/leaders.

And i don't even remember who was Clinton's UN Ambassador at all--or anything they did.

Aeryl's picture
Submitted by Aeryl on

And i don't even remember who was Clinton's UN Ambassador at all-

Judas himself, Bill Richardson.

amberglow's picture
Submitted by amberglow on

now that's funny--and pathetic too, of course.

what's he getting? is it Commerce? is that the one where you get your name on money? (and he also won't be making policy at all, i bet--Obama's already named the ones with real power over economic stuff, i'd say)

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Submitted by Aeryl on

That would definitely put a new spin on the "20 pieces of silver" riff a lot of blogs developed.

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Submitted by caseyOR on

Clinton had two. One was "Judas" Richardson; the other was Madeleine Albright. She was at the UN before she took over at State. I think Albright may be the only UN ambassador to utter the word "cojones" at a General Assembly meeting.

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Submitted by empty on

Rice ran Africa policy in the Clinton administration and IIRC did not do a very good job. SOme say in order to make up for it she has become a neo-liberal interventionist supporting the militarization of American foreign policy. Of course unlike the neocons she only wants us to kill people for a good cause. She co-authored an op-ed with Anthony Lake in the Washington Post arguing for US military intervention in Sudan - with or without UN blessing.