“Today, Politico reports:

… Obama is not, one of his senior advisers assured me Tuesday night, going to spend a lot of time in the next few months wooing Clinton supporters whose feelings may be hurting.”

They just make it so darn easy for me to sit on my duff for the next 5.5 months! No rallys, no doorknocking, no GOTV, no paypals, no writing checks. Just easy, breezy, summer livin’. Ah, the post partisan… can you smell it in the air?

Obama’s campaign was far more divisive than Hillary’s

I don’t know where you racists get this crap.

WNYC (Brian Lehrer Show, WNYC.org, podcast available later)—she just said it is not the responsibility of Obama to “bring the party together,” that it is very possibly the time for formation of a new coalition which will make up the Democratic Party, there is no reason to stick with historical chance which has led to the present coalition in the Democratic Party. It was essentially a screw Hillary and the voters she rode in on attitude. Sounds like the Obaman Creative Class New Party theme. The Axelrod Leveraged Buyout or hostile takeover.

Marie Coco was on as well, and she began by talking about the history of second place finishers in Democratic primaries, from Ted Kennedy to Jesse Jackson, pointing out that the men in the second place position tooks months or to the convention to give up their campaigns. She also pointed out that as the working class whites go, so goes the election. But that’s just history. Oh, my.

Why is it that Hillary must declare immediately her full endorsement of Obama? She’s already said she will “work [her] heart out” for the Dem nominee.

What more do the MCM and Obama supporters want?

Obedience? Subservience? The helpful little woman?

F&@k this shit.

http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/…

I just turned on MessNBC for the first time in weeks, because I don’t want to miss Hillary’s speech. And I heard Tweety talk to Howard Fineman and KO about the possibility of Hillary Clinton as Obama’s running mate, which is why I was compelled to post.

Tweety to KO: “But can she obey? Because that’s what a vice-president has to do. She has to obey the president.”

KO expresses skepticism. about Hillary’s capacity for obedience. Tweety repeats: “I have to go back to this. Can she obey?”

A few minutes later, Tweety asks Fineman: “Can she take the oath of obedience? After eight years of political independence, can she accept the subservience?”

That’s what it comes down to. Not can she help Obama win. Not whether her supporters can forget the sexism of the campaign. But can she obey, can she be subservient?

and Bill were so racist in their campaign (the “fairy tale” comment and Hillary naming the voting block she had been winning, white working class). Yeah, heavy duty racism. The host, Brian Lehrer, responded by asking if the caller meant the racist remarks of the Clintons. Not alleged racist remarks, the racist remarks. New conventional wisdom, babeeee.

Of course, it was the Obama camp which chose to raise racism as an issue and to race-bait the Hillary side. But, that’s only fair, right? His admiration for Reagan and the good “new ideas” from the Republicans would make doing so not only effective, but the right thing to do. Hey, it won for ReThugs; why not for Obama?

Grrrrrr.

In a follow-up to his “Florida and Michigan and the Art of Politics”, where he claims the National Press Corp being such rabid Clinton haters was a great part of why Obama “won”, he takes on some of his readers’ objections about said claim in”, “Booze, burgers, and broads: The art of managing the National Press Corps”
http://lancemannion.typepad.com/lance_ma…

He bursts the balloon of the Obama fans who think that he’ll be able to sail to a victory in the GE just because he’s such a wonderful candidate. (Emphasis mine)

The Insider Media hates Clinton and that worked to Barack Obama’s advantage.

I know there are lots of people who for whatever reason have to believe that Obama is going to win the nomination because he’s a knight in shining armor and his strength is as the strength of ten because his heart is pure. I won’t argue with you, for the same reason I could never bring myself to tell my kids there’s no Santa Claus. They had to find it out for themselves because I’m an old softie.

But there are others who want to believe that he won through the sheer force of his brilliance.

And I can’t deny it. He has been brilliant.

Not all the time. But enough of the time.

The difference is that I think a sign of his brilliance has been his ability to fight dirty while appearing not to be fighting dirty.

…Part of Obama’s luck this year has been that his toughest opponent is somebody the National Press Corps loathes and despises and wants to see fail.

Why is it that Hillary must declare immediately her full endorsement of Obama?

Because Obama’s position is illegitimate and weak.

His “victory” depends on votes that haven’t even been cast yet (e.g. superdelegate pledges).

This is Florida 2000 with Hillary Clinton starring in the Al Gore role.

I won’t argue with you, for the same reason I could never bring myself to tell my kids there’s no Santa Claus. They had to find it out for themselves because I’m an old softie.

I feel much better.

Ha!!!!!!

Let Koresh sort ’em out!

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“Rules are not necessarily sacred, principles are.”
- Franklin D. Roosevelt

Afterwards I remember seeing a t-shirt that listed the U.S. population and then subtracted the number of people who fit into all the groups Buchanan claimed to hate. IIRC, it came out to a negative number (because the groups overlap, of course).

The New Democratic Coalition is starting to sound about the same:

Total Voters Who Could Be Members of the New Coalition Based on 2004 Election: 100%

Subtract Old Democratic Coaliton:

White women: -41%
Latinos: - 8%
Voters over 60: -24%
Blue collar voters: - 45%

Total Members of New Democratic Coalition: -18% of all voters.

As Jon Stewart said so aptly in 2004, “we need help from the media and they’re huuuuuurting us.” (video)….

So I can’t comment on whether he’s been part of the problem or not. But the media has influenced this campaign negatively against Hillary, and the “liberals” on TV and in the blogosphere, and the Obama campaign, have either ignored it or cheered it on. I was watching CNN at the gym yesterday, and they were showing montages of what has gone wrong with the Clinton campaign, and the “fairy tale” comment came up at least twice. And it made me sick. And the “liberal” bloggers and the Obama campaign helped us to get there. I will be laughing this fall when they complain about how unfair the media is being.

Why is it that Hillary must declare immediately her full endorsement of Obama? She’s already said she will “work [her] heart out” for the Dem nominee.

What more do the MCM and Obama supporters want?

Obedience? Subservience? The helpful little woman?

Certainly to take on the sins of UhUhhBama’s electoral deficiencies

Somewhere on one of the six remaining blogs I read
(riverdaughter? Shakespeare?) someone put forth the notion a while ago of trouncing HRC as a symbolic honor killing.

After watching the MSM performances last night, I had to finally concur. The ANGER in their eyes (sometimes as they kept smiling — just look at their eyes) and sometimes their jaws and hands was palpable and scary. Huffington and Toobin separately using the words “deranged”. Really?

And most curious of all: why on the night that he “WON”? Cl;early, his victory isn’t what they wanted as much as some Hillary hari-kari. And they talked about it for hours. Why are psychopaths up at the receiving line to get in her face, as Iphie reported? Why aren’t they at an Obama party? Do they think she has never heard this “GET OUT” message before?? Someone on Abrams ranting because he didn’t get “respect” and then fuming.

I’ve been following these developments for months, and if you had bet me a million bucks even a WEEK ago that they’d collectively lose it like this on his “victory night”, I would have (unfortunately) taken that bet.

I truly truly do not understand some of what is going on here. And I’ve been paying attention.

I wonder why?

Real Clear Politics:

The woman who shouted “McCain in ’08” at the Democratic rules committee was speaking for a multitude. After mounting for months, female anger over the choreographed dumping on Hillary Clinton and her supporters has exploded — and party loyalty be damned. That the women are beginning to have a good time is an especially bad sign for Barack Obama’s campaign.

Not voting for McCain, but I admit I am beginning to have a good time.

About that progressive blogosphere:

What’s dangerous for the Democratic Party is that, for many women, the eye of the storm has moved beyond Hillary or anything she does at this point. The offense has turned personal.

They are now in their own orbit, having abandoned popular Democratic Websites that reveled in crude anti-Hillary outpourings — and established new ones on which they trade stories of the Obama people’s nastiness.

Wait a minute, you mean all those awful alternative websites weren’t started by the Hillary campaign, but were launched in response to GASP! the bullshit that spewed forth on established websites. Shocking!

But worse than the online malice has been the affronts to their faces.

Tara Wooters, a 39-year-old mother from Portland, Ore., told me that wearing a Hillary sticker around town has become an act of defiance. She recalls one young man telling her, “I’d rather vote for a black man than a menopausal woman.”

Feel the Unity!

But Clinton voters are racists so who needs ’em:

The women are angry at the ludicrous charges of racism leveled against Clinton by the Obama camp — amplified in the supposedly respectable media — and projected onto themselves.

Jean B. Grillo, an “over 50” writer in lower Manhattan, was pretty straightforward: “I am so tired as a white, ultra-liberal, McGovern-voting, civil-rights marching, anti-war fighting highly educated professional woman who totally supports Hillary Clinton to be attacked and vilified as racist and or dumb.”

But no need for the Democratic Party or Barack Obama to address any of this, the women will get over it:

The women talk of being taken for granted by a party leadership that never spoke out on some of the outrageous Hillary bashing — and despite the close race, joined the early rush to crown Obama.

“Many of us feel slighted,” said Lynn Eyrich Harvey, 76, from Los Gatos, Calif. “We feel that years of supporting the party is unimportant, that we are to sit down and shut up — but be sure to vote Democratic in November.”

Passions can change, one supposes, but the women I hear from do not see the rampant sexism, particularly toward older women, as isolated gaffes but as a systemic dismissal of them — an enormous voting bloc that has been reliably Democratic.

“How Obama’s campaign has treated Hillary will not be forgotten,” Janet Rogers, 55, who runs a Bed and Breakfast in Medina, Ohio, wrote me. “I will vote for McCain if Hillary is not the nominee. My husband and friends all feel the same way.”

The Democrats could not have fucked this up more if they tried. I’d feel sorry for them but since they’ve spent the last six months telling me to go fuck myself at least on the days where they weren’t telling me to get over it and fall in line, I think I’ll just make some popcorn and enjoy the show.

And now these new web sites need to find interesting ways to work together so that we, at least, don’t fold like deck chairs the next time a critique is most needed. Not sure how to do this, but I think we need to stop focusing on the site quite so much and start focusing on the network…

[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

but the discipline…

that’s a whole other story.

Also remembering that the enemy of my enemy is not my friend.

Lots of ’Good Faith’ has been lost.

Can it ever be recovered?

He has a fondness for McCain (although not without criticism), and professes a great frustration with politics-as-usual. Stewart comes across to me as a bit of a “why don’t they get things done” bipartisan fantasist. I don’t remember his defending Clinton from media bullying, though he has done so for Obama, and he hints that he think a McCain-Obama matchup would be a great opportunity to turn the page — making Clinton part of the problem, the bad old way rather than the good new way.

here? It’s just not adding up.

The only highlight is watching the MSM practice self flagilation over the fact the HRC hasn’t conceded especially during Obama’s victory parade.

Someone mentioned earlier that the press really hates HRC. Maybe that explains all of this. And we refer to the press, we don’t mean Wolf Blitzer, Hannity, Olbermann, Tweety… we mean the corporations that own the media, right? Because why would those pundits care who the nominee is, but, the corporations want someone mallable, naive and compliant in the WH.

I love this job!

and it’s getting covered fairly— and not like it was with Clinton (they called it whining, and bitching and simply a losing campaign’s smearing of him, etc)

Look for much much more of this—McCain will be destroying every single selling point Obama has used—from “bipartisan” and “unity” to “new kind of politics” bs…all of it.

The difference is that I think a sign of his brilliance has been his ability to fight dirty while appearing not to be fighting dirty.

EXACTLY. Everyone I know who was attended several primaries saw Obots doing tons of down-and-dirty stuff. I’ve worked in that business and I don’t have any problem whatsoever with bare-knuckled politicking (the legal kind, anyway). But going to vast lengths to portray yourself as the messiah of American political reformation while engaging in pure Daley-machine stuff is, well, at least not living up to the brand identity you chose. Quite the salesman, Obama. Kinda like W.

The buyer’s remorse on this purchase could be ugly.

Hillary Rosen* apparently could not wait to start undermining Hillary’s position. She wants everyone to know that she’s no bargaining chip. Hillary has 48 hours to get with the program or else her reputation is ruined. Ruined! Already Obama’s people and party leaders and the media are trashing her (wow, that’s new and different) so Hillary better act fast.

So Hillary Rosen’s advice to Clinton is to walk away with nothing. To unconditionally surrender. You know the more I see of the Democratic Party elite the more I understand the last eight years. Capitulate or people won’t like you! Surrender or the media will say mean things! Hard to believe we’re still in Iraq.

The interesting thing about Rosen’s post is that it was excerpted on Talk Left by a commenter and included a reference to Hillary having missed her “Gore moment” when she could’ve done the great thing Gore did and been lauded for it by one and all (until of course the trashing resumed a week later). However, when I read the piece this wasn’t in there. I don’t know if the excerpt was bad or someone suggested to Hillary Rosen that non-oarty leaders don’t actually consider Gore’s concession something to celebrate.

* Not linking, her blog’s on HuffPo which is not an intact site, if you want to give that cite a hit, she’s currently featured on the front page.

Now, she’s saying that Hillary Clinton must not use her political power, which is considerable, to demand one god-damned thing from Obama or the party for her voters. To do otherwise is “using” them. Yes, god forbid, Hillary Clinton should use her voters to advance a cause they believe in, whether that be a particular issue or Hillary herself.

And what is the awful price Hillary will pay if she uses her political power to get something for the people who voted for her? The party elite and media will criticize her.

Isn’t this a nice example of so much that has gone wrong with the Democratic Party, not to mention our media? Any use of political power that might cause tension or any hint of unpleasantness must never be used. Otherwise your fellow Democrats and the media will join together to trash you for how much disunity you’re causing.

If that doesn’t describe everything from Gore’s concession to the capitulation on setting a withdrawal timeline on Iraq, I don’t know what does.

At some point, Democrats became scared of politics. You can’t win at a game that scares you.

Bill Clinton for First Dude!!!

Unbelievably she did mention Al Gore! I missed it the first time.

KoshemBos

and how the GOP operates—this was Congress today—

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/… —
“… Democrats tried to bring up the Climate Security Act, which would institute a “cap and trade” system to stem greenhouse gas emissions in the U.S.

Republicans had voted with Democrats to consider the bill earlier in the week. But, that doesn’t mean considering it will be easy. When Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid called up the bill today, part of the Senate’s archaic rules require that a clerk read the bill. Generally, Reid would ask that both sides agree to waive the reading and it is entered into the record as a written document.

But not today. Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, objected to waiving the reading. So the clerks of the Senate are taking turns actually reading the Climate Security Act out loud. It’s 400 pages. It’ll take 4-5 hours. And then they can consider debating it.

But, even after the bill-reading is completed, will the debate prove an effective use of time? Republicans would point out that it’s unclear if the bill has the 50 votes it would need to pass, much less the 67 needed to override a promised presidential veto. Therefore, some have argued that the whole debate is a waste of the Senate’s time.

More to the point, McConnell and Reid have been sparring over a legislative matter that has nothing to do with the Climate Security Act - judicial appointments. …”

I do so love ponies!

is Hillary’s capitulation. Since he doesn’t have the nomination on pledged delegate votes, he needs Hillary to tie it in a bow and gift him with it. Obama knows it, his supporters know it, the media know it. The empty suit has claimed an empty crown and IT’S ALL HILLARY’S FAULT!

I believe, for “political honor killing”, a phrase that has haunted me ever since. Truer words were never spoken.

she’s not under consideration for VP—on a day when Rezko is found guilty on 16 counts! (they just said it on MSNBC)

They weren’t in the run up to the Iraq War. They aren’t now. They are shills for their latest product, which right now appears to be Hillary Hate. I’d say Obama, but they haven’t been able to spend five minutes talking about him the last two days, all they can do is spew about that awful woman. Even now.

Having said that, they do seem to be a conduit for Obama campaign talking points. I guess he really doesn’t want to have to ask her to be VP. We’ll see if he can prevent it if that’s what she wants.

they just have a bigger, more diverse cast of characters sliming Clinton and praising Obama and McCain.

Seriously—they’re actually worse, i think, because they’re still pretending to be a straight news station.

that MSNBC does—same wording too.

Second-wave and third-wave “do me” feminists have been separating for years now, and all it would take is one traumatic event to create a permanent split. Third-wavists’ acceptance of Obama’s casual, party-sponsored misogyny is that event.

Those women who are willing to stockpile RU486, bring pressure on local legislatures to keep abortion legal, and again create an underground abortion referral network just might be ready to allow Obama to lose, to induce the fever of striking down Roe vs. Wade in order to jar third-wave feminists’ political immune systems. I’ll find the quote — the original comment at Riverdaughter’s place is gone — here it is:

“If my younger sisters lose Roe Wade it will be their own fault for taking the rights they have for granted, because they didn’t fight for them. They are complacent and can take the time to swoon over a sexy empty suit who has already set gender relations back a minimum of 30 years, and we haven’t even gotten to the General Election campaign yet. Serves them right. Not my problem. I know how not to get pregnant.

”It’s my job to protect the rights I fought for that matter to me. This is a misogynist’s campaign and if younger women are too busy spawning over Leland Gaunt handing out Needful Things and discussing his vibrating phone when he leans on one of them, then they will have to learn to take the consequences of their own folly along with the consolations. Maybe then they will Get It. I have already done well in my life. Complacency is their enemy, not mine. Let em eat cell phones.”

This is hardcore.

But if a party and media apparatus decide to resign or retire or obsolece an entire generation of vital women and their male allies, and to destroy the carefully-built media construct that claimed (even when we saw barely post-pubescent girl performers sexualize themselves and watched a generation of young women Brazil wax and model themselves back into the pedophile demographic) that women deserved to be given the same respect as men, what last-stab effort do they expect, from possibly the last generation of American women well-off enough to fight, one more time?

After this second-wave generation dies, the deluge of anti-feminism, backed by our truly misogynist creditors, will reach our shores. It might be worth a presidency, to prepare our beachheads for battle.

just keep on coming… from the comments:

This campaign has been riddled with sexism and ageism. The media partook in these despicable traits…little respect was shown toward Hillary by Obama, his surrogates, his supporters, and his media tweetie pundits. She has been insulted with sexist terms, just like McCain has been insulted because of age. This is no more acceptable than insulting some one because of their ethnicity or race.

There are many ways to express your outrage, one is to boycott…that is what this is: a boycott of Obama.

As for your question whether if she were 21 rather than 71 would she feel the same, because of roevwade: 21 year olds have little concept of what the 71 year olds had to endure and the struggle it took to obtain the rights they have today. Give the 21 year old 15 more years in the job market, and she will become aware that she is still a second class citizen in the United States. in the year 2008.

(… another commenter…)

…sometimes you have to make a statement with your vote and that is what those of us are doing by voting for mccain. our statement says to the DNC leadership and obama = “NO YOU CAN’T” NOT THIS TIME.

You cannot count on the 60% of women that make up the DEM party - we will go elsewhere.

you cannot threaten us with roe v wade. if it has not been overturned under the most conservative admin in my lifetime with a full republican congress, it surely will not be overturned with a less-conservative republican (mccain) and a democratic majority - this does not scare me AT ALL.

“A Party Held HOSTAGE: Michele Obama Wasn’t Alone in Her Hostility at the Rainbow/PUSH Conference in 2004–Protests Against Jesse Jackson, Threats Against Democrats/Kerry By Ministers in an Eerie Preview of the Rev. Wright Episode”

http://tinyurl.com/4jealx

Read it and weep…

oh boy~. like some commenter on riverdaughter said, “So when did Tweety ask that question of Cheney?”

the answer was, “Silly question. Only vice-presidents with uteruses have to promise obedience.”

un-effing-believable.