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Ding! Ding! Ding! I Believe We Might Have a Winner

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Of course, vastleft is the final judge since it's his contest, and I hope you don't mind me being presumptuous and proposing a winner, VL, but for your consideration in the post-Pennsylvania spin contest, I humbly submit the winners are anyone who guessed a cross between A (too little, too late) and D (WWTSBQ) with a hint of B (new evidence of the Clintons' racism) thrown in for good measure.

Ladies and Gentlemen, via Talk Left, I give you Jim Clyburn:

I heard something, the first time yesterday (in South Carolina), and I heard it on the (House) floor today, which is telling me there are African Americans who have reached the decision that the Clintons know that she can’t win this. But they’re hell-bound to make it impossible for Obama to win.

Nicely done.

Update: Clyburn represents South Carolina and while I believe he made these comments in North Carolina, I may have created some confusion about which Carolina Mr. Clyburn represents. Any failure to give South Carolina full credit for Mr. Clyburn was unintentional.

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Submitted by myiq2xu on

Isn't that exactly what he's trying to do to Hillary? Make it impossible for her to win?

"Where's the beef? - Clara Peller

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Submitted by amberglow on

she could never run again because of it--he's saying that AAs believe this already and are pissed at her. That means they wouldn't support her in the future, no?

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Submitted by myiq2xu on

That's why the race card is such a dirty low-blow.

Obama should have squished the whole meme at inception.

"Where's the beef? - Clara Peller

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Submitted by CognitiveDissonance on

I think it's time we started writing diaries all over the blogosphere about why that stupid Obama won't quit when he damn well knows he doesn't have a snowball's chance of winning the general election? What is he trying to do - destroy the democratic party? Who is going to vote for him once Wright/Ayres/Auchi/"bitter"/et al are played 24/7 for a couple of months? He's a 50 state loser waiting to happen. So why won't that stupid Obama drop out so we can get on with the election? That's what I'd like to see all over the blogsosphere ad nauseum.

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Submitted by amberglow on

---some bloggers don't believe in telling anyone to drop out bec voters are still voting, and many already are totally invested in Obama and/or hate Clinton, so it would be admitting they picked the wrong horse and spent months trashing the wrong person.

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Submitted by vastleft on

They're pulling out all the stops, including deciding that a 9+% win in perhaps the perfect swing state -- while being marginalized by the party establishment, the pundits, and the blogosphere, and being outspent 3-to-1 -- is really a loss.

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Submitted by basement angel on

the better to make the point when a staffer has to actually deal with the letter physically.

Obama has probably already lost my vote in November. I won't vote for McCain, but I sure as heck won't vote for Obama either. However, if this rhetoric doesn't stop - if party leaders don't put a stop to it - then I'm not voting for anyone. The whole damn party can do without my vote.

What's being communicated over and over and over again, is that neither Obama or apparently many people in the Democratic party, take seriously womens' votes. What I'm learning is the degree to which I'm taken for granted.

I support the Democratic party because I believe in equality and freedom. I vote Democratic because I want policies advanced and instituted that make people's lives (both here in the US and abroad) made better and the Democratic party is the best instrument for doing that. For cryin' out loud, we're the opposition party in the greatest nation in the world. As a party, Democrats have tremendous opportunity to improve lives around the world. But if running this kind of campaign and alienating voting women in blue states, why would I think that Obama would proceed with enthusiasm on issues of importance to women? He's clearly finds our agenda an impediment to him winning.

This Clyburn thing was, for me, the straw that broke the camel's back. I'll show up and vote if Clinton's the nominee, but I'm sitting the entire election out otherwise.

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Submitted by Davidson on

If you thought Coburn was bad, check out the DNC:

After a series of discussions, the Obama campaign and the Democratic National Committee have decided to file papers with the Federal Election Commission establishing a “joint fundraising agreement.” Under the law, such a committee can accept up to $28,500 from individuals, most of which would go to the DNC.

Presumptive Republican nominee John McCain has already formed such an alliance with the Republican National Committee. Their group — called Victory — was created in March after McCain clinched the GOP nomination and is headed by McCain adviser Carly Fiorina.

Sources say the DNC has also held talks with Hillary Clinton’s campaign about forming a separate vehicle with her, but that no deal has been struck.

The fact that the Obama campaign is moving forward and Clinton is not at this time reflects certain important realities: Obama’s team is more confident that he will win the nomination than is Clinton’s — and Obama’s campaign has the necessity and luxury of thinking about and planning for the general election to come.

As part of that preparation, the campaign is thinking about how to divide up roles and responsibilities between the campaign’s Chicago headquarters and the DNC in Washington.

The DNC has stood out during this election cycle as the one major party entity that has not been raising money like gangbusters, and officials in both camps hope the joint agreement can allow the DNC to tap into Obama’s extraordinary leverage and popularity with donors, particularly after he secures the nomination — assuming he does.

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Submitted by dws on

I bitterly resent your attempt to attribute this idiotic comment to a congressman from our neighbor to the north. Rep. Clyburn represents SOUTH Carolina, not North Carolina.

We are very proud of our idiots here, thank you very much. Please don't take them away from us.

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Submitted by BDBlue on

He's yours and you guys deserve the credit.

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Submitted by BDBlue on

Out of respect for BIO and other posters here who are more familiar with him and whose judgement I trust. But I admit sometimes the DNC doesn't make it easy and I can't help noticing that Obama could help Dean with his biggest weakness at the DNC, fundraising.

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Submitted by bringiton on

Have at anything I say without restraint, and anyone else you feel deserves it. When you're wrong, I'll let you know - promise. The dialectic is what matters, not being nice.

What's the problem here? This is standard practice, McCain has already done it and Clinton will too if she gets the nomination. Obama has cash to burn so he can do it now and get some PR points that voters will ignore. Does it buy him anything with the DNC? Maybe, but not much; this is something he'd be expected to do anyway. Does it signal a willingness to work with the Dem establishment whether or not he gets the nomination? Probably so, and that's a good thing.

I don't see anything here that reflects badly on anyone, so why the grumpiness? This is good news for the party and for November, nothing less.