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Did Obama lie to Kucinich about single payer on Air Force One?

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Obama told Dennis Kucinich that the Ohio Representative’s amendment is similar to Bernie Sanders’ provision in the Senate bill, and creates a pathway to single payer. Since the waiver does not start until 2017, and does not cover the Department of Labor, it is nearly impossible to see how it gets around the ERISA laws that stand in the way of any practical state single payer system.

(More detail on ERISA here, though FWIW, I think "stand in the way of any practical plan" is more anti-single payer spin from a public option sparkle zombie pony advocate. The real issue with ERISA is that it makes court challenges from insurance companies possible, but that does not, by definition, "stand in the way of any practical state single payer system."

Obama lying? Say it isn't so!

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Submitted by libbyliberal on

I can't fathom why Kucinich did not GET ANYTHING CONCRETE to release to the press for his own dignity and something to offer to the millions he was representing! Kucinich himself kept demanding to know why the Dems kept compromising and NOT AT ALL the Repubs, and then he himself compromises with nothing? What... a Lucy and football promise, a secret promise, from Obama????? I think I'd rather it have been the pony head in his bed!

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Submitted by mass on

Kucinich was holding out for the ERISA waiver. Obama told him there was no way the admin. was going to move on that. The group did think, while an exra hurdle, Sanders law may allow for states to switch out there system with an SP system in 2017. They didn't think the Sanders amendment was a total waste of time, but it wasn't the Kucinich amendment.

Submitted by hipparchia on

They didn't think the Sanders amendment was a total waste of time, but it wasn't the Kucinich amendment.

this sounds about right to me too.