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Democrat butchers single payer talking points (for lack of party support)

A state Senate race in California:

While both support the Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare, the two disagreed over whether a single-payer option should be added to the program.

“I don’t have a problem with universal health care, [but] single payer doesn’t work,” [Republican Downey Councilman Mario Guerra] said. “You’re taking away choices. I want to choose my own doctor, not go to a doctor the government gives me.”

[former Assemblyman and Democrat Tony Mendoza] said, “We shouldn’t turn back now, people are suffering. It doesn’t matter what your socioeconomic status is, health care should be available to everyone.”

Total fail. Canadians get to pick their own doctor under their single payer program:

For the record: Canadians pick their own doctors, just like Americans do. And not only that: since it all pays the same, poor Canadians have exactly the same access to the country’s top specialists that rich ones do.

And the Times:

Another myth that is tossed around is that you can’t choose your doctor. As a Canadian I have always been able to select my physician, and have left ones I didn’t feel were doing a good job.

So, while I applaud Mendoza's argument from justice, that's no substitute for not knowing the nuts and bolts. And you can bet that a party apparatus that was serious about single payer would have those details prepared and distributed, so candidates would have them at their fingertips.

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Submitted by paintedjaguar on

Interesting how often opponents of healthcare reform characterize better systems as having exactly the same flaws as our current crappy non-system. Anyway, the more I've seen of reform efforts in the US, the more I think the only good answer is total replacement with an NHS/VA setup.

Submitted by lambert on

A quick search yields this:

Michael Costa, deputy director of health care reform, said that the financial and economic impact of various revenue proposals were being assessed with models developed by Massachusetts Institute of Technology professor Jonathan Gruber. Gruber co-authored a 2011 report that recommended “a public-private single payer system” that would be financed from savings in health care expenditures and with a 12.5 percent payroll tax.

On Friday, Costa said that a payroll tax would be simple and not require businesses to tabulate employees to assess their liabilities. He also said that a tax should be applied to small businesses — “We want everybody in” — but that small businesses should get some relief, probably by getting more time to prepare to pay the tax. He said that the challenges of unfolding an “orderly economic transition” make it more difficult to envision the first year or two of implementation than to envision the new tax structure four to seven years out.

Oh. Not an income tax, let alone a progressive one.