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I cannot think of a single member of Congress that deserves to be returned to office in November.

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Submitted by lambert on

Not sure whether a few cycle of voting out the incumbent, no matter which legacy party they belong to, voting for third parties only, or not voting is the best option.

I just don't think targeting individuals makes sense. The idea is to maximally stress the system, not to fix this or that congress critter. That was the career "progressive" strategy 2006-2010, and after the health care fiasco, it's clear that they led to disaster.

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Submitted by gqmartinez on

Realistically, I don't think we will change anything in 2010, but we can start to lay the groundwork for 2012, where I think we can be effective with the right pres candidate (who can help lower level candidates as well). We need to show our dissatisfaction with the system and voting in an "R" instead of a "D" doesn't change anything. Same shit, different initial. I don't see a third party--at this point--being viable, too many possibilities out there and some piss-poor leaders in them. NOTA can be used to generate support for "something else" and we can build off that.

I really think a third party candidate can win in 2012. (How's that for hope?) But I don't think sprinkling votes here and there will help, we have to be more concerted in order to generate momentum.

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Submitted by texaslaborleftie on

this was meant as a response to lambert's headline post.

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Submitted by texaslaborleftie on

or some equivalent thereof.

It would/should start in San Francisco headed for Washington DC. It should be led by someone well known and respected and who, sadly, is almost certain not to survive the walk -- but in context 45,000 dying each year from lack of health care and conservatively 120,000 each year from iatrogenesis. Just thinking out loud.

I don't know, and I am sure it has been posited here before, but my thinking is that single payer health care for Americans may be the salvation of the world. Unconcerned that their families would lose health care benefits US workers would be free to protest for labor rights, against the murder of their fellow human beings at home and abroad and other atrocities perpetrated by the most lethal killing machine the world has ever seen.

I know that big corps understand that health care benefits are maybe their biggest club with which to maintain prole discipline. had a great interview yesterday with Ken Riley, pres of local 1422 of the ILA (International Longshore Association). Read it and feel much better than you did yesterday.

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Submitted by DCblogger on

Gandhi had headed many successful actions before that march. He did not just declare it. Same with Montgomery bus boycott. Many of the Montgomery civil rights movement had been up to the Highlander training center for training. The closest we have to that is this, see also this.

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Submitted by texaslaborleftie on

but "history does not always repeat itself [in results(?)] but it very often rhymes." (Sorry for not having the attribution.)

Doesn't Alex Cockburn make a cogent point that the debtors revolt -- like tax revolt -- allows us to be picked off anonymously and one at a time?

Just thinking out loud so no feelings are hurt here. Pretty open to correction and the dialectic.

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Submitted by gqmartinez on

Oh wait. I forgot.

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Submitted by madamab on

could be why David Plouffe wrote me to ask me to call my Congresscritters and beg them to pass this bill.

Uhhhhh....yeah. That's gonna happen, Davey.

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Submitted by sisterkenney on

tend to rise up when the going is rough. The latest example is "Solidarity", but the American landscape is replete with the sacrifices and absolute courage of the workers who paved the way during the most repressive regimes. It's interesting to me that SEIU is now trying to triangulate Stern as a new "progressive" 3rd party leader, while acting as a "Brown Shirt" wing of the neo-lib faction. What is needed is a new labor movement, and I am hoping that NNU can fill that void. They have true progressive principles, they have tremendous "street cred", and they are unapologetically for single-payer. I hope they can move vigorously to fill the void that other union leaders/members have abdicated. Might not hurt to contact them with praise, support, suggestions.