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I can't get to my Yahoo e-mail account because I have to hit a Switch Now button that says I have read and agree to... a block of very fine, very faint gray print. Thing is, I don't agree. I just don't.

Yahoo sucks

I've been staring at that button for a couple of days now.

In this case, it appears to be about Yahoo going to scan your mail, apparently like G-mail has always done. So I don't want to go to G-mail, though I see they have a nifty way to import all your archive of Yahoo e-mail messages (but is it a roach motel? Can you export to another service?). I also see you can back up your webmail to your local computer via Microsoft Outlook. I don't trust Microsoft either, and my local computer is as whiffy as it gets, so I've never done that. So okay, now it's time to evolve.

Some options I've seen mentioned are StartMail (not started yet), Hushmail, Runbox... I don't know.

The background is that I have the Yahoo account because it came with AT&T DSL service. I live in a remote area that is (or was?) only served by AT&T DSL at the time I signed up seven years ago unless you went to satellite, which I don't want. So even if I change e-mail providers, it'll still be via AT&T internet.

I get that you get what you pay for, and so expect nothing from free e-mail accounts. I get that any e-mail inherently is not secure, and that companies change their terms of service without your consent all the time, and that no matter what contract we might feel we have with our provider, United Stasi uber alle. I get it, but I don't AGREE to it. If there's nothing we can do about it, why is Yahoo making me click a button that says I agree? It looks like a scam to make us complicit in our own enslavement. Like we had rights but we signed them away. What rights did we have? Why do I have to click that button?

If you can have a right to private and secure financial transactions on the web, why can't you have private and secure e-mail? If it's a crime for someone to tamper with your US postal mail, why isn't it a crime to tamper with your e-mail? If the USPS is failing due to loss of business to the internet, why doesn't the USPS upgrade its services and provide secure, Constitutionally protected e-mail for all? I pay for stamps, it would make sense to pay an equivalent for secure e-mail that has the presumption of a right to privacy.

Anybody? Ideas, suggestions? What next?


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Submitted by jo6pac on

up and hit the button do to having some items on Craig list for sale and even then it took 6 days for all the errors to fix themselves. You know they would never do anything to hurt you because they are only trying help the motherland cops catch the bad guys;)

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Submitted by transcriber on

Heck, I'm sorry. Tell you what, I am loving my USPS idea. Why DON'T they provide e-mail, and why isn't it legally protected the same as snailmail? Suddenly I feel connected to humanity and America again. Suddenly I understand why neogovt wants the USPS to fail. I think you can be prosecuted for leaving flyers in people's USPS mailboxes. Just think what that level of protection and rights and stare decisis history would mean extended to e-mail. I can almost touch the Constitution again.

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Submitted by jo6pac on

also now if there was just some way we could get rid of the problem that would stand in the way it's called todays Amerikan govt and it's corp. partners in crimes against it's citizens. In fact we could close down nsa and give the computers to the USPS. Just day dream.

Its 103.5f here today in my part of Calli and yes the AC is on. I normally seat on the front porch with glass of wine but I think take pass on it today.

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Submitted by transcriber on

:-) katiebird posted on 4/28/12:

Well, I’ve got a suggestion for how to make up for “drop in mail volume due to e-mail”:

I would like it if the US Post Office could set up an email server with the same privacy guarantees that we have with the US Mail.
Require warrants to open and access messages, attachments and contact lists (for starters).
Forbid harvesting messages, attachments and contact lists (for starters) for marketing research.
I would pay a reasonable price for this service.

And more! TOTALLY excellent link, thank you so much kb!

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Submitted by katiebird on

Also, Permanent mailing addresses (for homeless people or people who don't want to advertise their home address on whois or other privacy reasons) .... Official IDs for people who don't drive (Pretty much everyone needs ID these days) .... As part of the P.O. Bank, Safety deposit boxes.

Submitted by lambert on

... here. None of the mail software looks ready for prime time. Encryption works, which is why it draws attention and they store your data for five years.

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Submitted by transcriber on

Thanks Lambert. Encryption might be useful, but I'm looking instead for a common expectation of privacy, not better padlocked iron chests to mail my letters in. What could be easier than breaking into an envelope? Yet it's a crime if it's not addressed to you and everybody knows it. I'm trying to get to Fanfare for the Common Man, not for the strongest man or the smartest man.

Over in a side window I've got the Humboldt Eaglecam going. 1,309,909 views and counting. The difference is people are watching with care and interest and concern for the eagles' welfare, and not like an opportunistic disease you have no defense against.

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Submitted by Jay on

Sounds like a great business idea. I can see the TV commercial now: thousands of cockroaches crawling over someone's back as they use their email. Isn't there a better way? For just $20 a year, you can enjoy email where no one is crawling all over your personal information to make a buck or sell you junk you don't need. Make the switch today! Maybe someone like Credo Action could do that.

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Submitted by transcriber on

StartMail seems to be trying that, and I signed up for their mailing list to try it when it becomes available (though if I can't pick up my e-mail, there's a fail). But now that I've come to think of it, reviving the USPS and a commons just seems fabulous to me. It never made sense to me that e-mail wasn't supposed to be private. Of course it was. It's a communication between two addressed people, and -- heck, it's got its own clause in the Constitution!

The modern Post Office originated in 1792 as the Post Office Department (USPOD). It was based on the Constitutional authority empowering Congress "To establish post offices and post roads". The new law provided for a greatly expanded postal network, and served editors by charging newspapers an extremely low rate. The law guaranteed the sanctity of personal correspondence, and provided the entire nation with low-cost access to information on public affairs, while establishing a right to personal privacy.